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From: Brad Lhotsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Camilo Gonzalez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Standarized tests
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 11:40:24 -0500
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Opening the proverbial can o' worms here aren't ya? :)

Rather than restate this debate, here are some relevant threads from the
perl community on this topic:

http://use.perl.org/comments.pl?sid=17816&cid=27231
http://www.perlmonks.org/index.pl?node_id=316331
http://www.perlmonks.org/index.pl?node_id=62244

Perl's TIMTOWTDI has proven quite an obstacle to standardized testing
and certifications.  The stance of the majority of the community is that
testing proves nothing but how well you can memorize things.  Perl's
broad scope and community backed development infrastructure have made it
practically impossible to classify what a CGI/Web Developer might need.
HTML::Mason, Template-Toolkit, and pure CGI.pm based applications are
all relevant, but which is "necessary" to be a CGI/Web Developer?  So do
we test on the just the core language?  How many times do you use
Text::Wrap?  How many times do you use DBI?

There exist tests for perl "certification", but the bottom line is that
they're all incomplete in some facet.  A relatively experienced
programmer who writes good code, could do poorly on one of these tests
as he's like specialized his talent to a certain group of
modules/applications.  Likewise, a newbie with no experience in actually
writing perl with a background in C could likely ace the test after
taking some initiative reading the Camel or Llama.

This topic usually turns into a heated debate fairly quickly.

On Wed, Mar 17, 2004 at 10:09:40AM -0600, Camilo Gonzalez wrote:
> Are there any standarized tests one can take to measure one's Perl 
> prowess? How much are they and where can I find them?
> 
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