"Drieux" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Todd either Paused for more MountainDew or had a Moment: > [..] > > Those last two paragraphs were total rant, and I probably > > have no idea what I'm talking about, but they are getting posted > > anyway ;0) > [..] > > I would like be so totally opposed to your > position if it were not for most of the dark horror > of where I so totally agree with you.... > > But First off - COOL RANT!
I was hoping that _some_ day I could string a few sentences together as well as you do =0) Unfortunately, I dont think I have accomplished it yet!!! > p0: let us not confused science, technology and VOODOO. > Computer Science is wonderful for providing a theoretical > intellectual underpinning to hashing algorithms, while > a specific instance of that as a technology of course > is perl's 'hash' data structure, the actual 'coolness' > of course lies in using it in strange and arcane ways > that border on Voodoo. > > bless this ref... I agree, as long as you agree that the more one understands the CS theory, the less voodoo there is in the implementation. > > > p2: I am very nervous that folks are noticing that > at present PHP is not supportive of MVC as a design > pattern - and that may be a limiting factor - but as > you have also noted, given the gaggelation of globulated > together 'stuff' - eg: ASP+HTML+SQL - this means that > there are still great employment opportunities refactoring > that stuff into maintainable code. So we should support > the spread of PHP without MVC as a basis for more work > refactoring the code??? > > return unless defined( $ref ); I think that most languages are supportive of MVC as a design pattern, but each language's advocates and tutorial designers are not. All intro tutorials are rightfully simple and stratightforward example usages of a technology. But as we have been discussing, most developers, it seems, take this as the end-all be-all of app development technology, declare themselves proficient, and consider the tutorial reason enough to add to the "expert" column on one's resume. This leads right to the next comment: > > p4: given that hacking in perl does not require MVC as > a design pattern, but one can learn the hard way to support it.... > We have AxKit, but I wouldnt like to call it the canonical perl MVC pattern. Most familiar with it probably would though. ASP.NET has MVC with its "code behind" concept. Im not aware of any other MVC based platforms right off. Todd W. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
