On Monday, Jun 9, 2003, at 13:05 US/Pacific, steve ryan wrote: [..]
So... i do my hex to ascii translation first, and the character replace
second.

so simple.

AARRRGH! :)

Huzzah!


Welcome on the BigBus!!! Those who have headBashed in public that

DuhMoment....

There is always this ungainly problem of what the documentation
says about how things should happen, and then understanding where
exactly they really DO happen... As we have been sharing with
David Greenhalgh, a part of the issue is understanding IF the
problem is with the perl syntax, or with how a given browser/server
is doing it's bit.... and then there is the 3Dom's Problem....

I should also thank you steve, as I finally took the time to
clean up a bit of ugliness when I saw it in the function when
I went to show it to you.... One of those things I have been
meaning to go back and better understand and refactor... so
my complements for getting me off the dime...

On Monday, Jun 9, 2003, at 09:48 US/Pacific, Kristofer Hoch wrote:
Also,
  Maybe you may want to try using CGI.pm to get query
strings.
[ lovely code snippet for reasons of National Security ]
======================
That may help you out quite a bit.  Drieux, You are so
hard core dude!;)

I was rather counting on you to defend the 'mainstream' position - and why/how it would work in canonical CGI.pm....

On top of the usual problems about producing useable html stuff
that will work with IE and Netscape, and opera, and... there
is the 'server side' problems about what assumptions does one
have about what will 'be there' when your code arrives; and
some here can go back and notice, as I did, that the CGI.pm
is a relatively 'new' addition - as I have one of the boxes
that has the fan out of perl 5.003(??) - may 6th 1997 -
that did not deliver a CGI.pm.... Some of the folks who ask
questions here are also running off of servers that come from
those dark times, a long, long, long time ago...

A part of the problem of course is whether or not one has
control of any form over what the sys-admin on a given site
will actually be doing with how much of perl is actually installed.

So one either has to call out the full on dependency list,

        perl 5.6.1 or better
        and ..... and ....

And PRAY that the nice sys-admin/WebPerKin will be ever so
polite as to make sure that the new cool and groovey modules
that one really likes are in place....

Or one opts for alternative strategies such as hacking code
that lives in the middle ground which does not assume more
than one can hope for....

When that project started, there was some uncertainty how far
back we were going to have to be 'compatible' - so some things
have to be hacked around.... So by the time it was 'ok' to presume
that we would not have to go back before 5.6.1, most of the cgi
basics had been tweeked, and there really was no good reason to
try to fall back to CGI.pm ...

The Other Side of the argument of course is the value I personally
place on,

        Rip It Apart,
        Put It back together....

So It is my OCD to see how much I really 'know' about the stuff
I am coding up, and why I like this Kult Solution over that...

A part of what we need to be able to share with all FNG's is
that basic reality,

We all start some place...

and hopefully also share with them our

        'Once Upon a Time, I did a dumb thing like,
                and so I tend to do....'

things that we all do...

Fortunately I caught the 'oh that looks ugly' in the function,
as noted above, BEFORE I sent it to the list.... at least this time.


ciao drieux

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