On Thu, Jun 14, 2001 at 10:46:56AM -0700, Mark Bergeron wrote:
: Has this list had postings yet? I don't seem to be receiving any I think.
Yes, quite a bit of traffic, actually. If you recieved this FAQ
posting, you are getting mail from the list.
Is something weird happening with your mail client?
: Mark Bergeron
:
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: Date: Thu Jun 14 09:35:06 PDT 2001
: Subject: Weekly list FAQ posting
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: >NAME
: > beginners-faq - FAQ for the beginners-cgi mailing list
: >
: >1 - Administriva
: > 1.1 - I'm not subscribed - how do I subscribe?
: >
: > Send mail to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
: >
: > You can also specify your subscription email address by sending email to
: > (assuming [EMAIL PROTECTED] is your email address):
: >
: > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>.
: >
: > 1.2 - How do I unsubscribe?
: >
: > Now, why would you want to do that? Send mail to
: > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, and wait for a response. Once you
: > reply to the response, you'll be unsubscribed. If that doesn't work,
: > find the email address which you are subscribed from and send an email
: > like the following (let's assume your email is [EMAIL PROTECTED]):
: >
: > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
: >
: > 1.3 - There is too much traffic on this list. Is there a digest?
: >
: > Yes. To subscribe to the digest version of this list send an email to:
: >
: > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
: >
: > To unsubscribe from the digest, send an email to:
: >
: > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
: >
: > 1.4 - Is there an archive on the web?
: >
: > Yes, there is. It is located at:
: >
: > http://archive.develooper.com/beginners-cgi%40perl.org/
: >
: > 1.5 - How can I get this FAQ?
: >
: > This document will be emailed to the list once a month, and will be
: > available online in the archives, and at http://beginners.perl.org/
: >
: > 1.6 - I don't see something in the FAQ, how can I make a suggestion?
: >
: > Send an email to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> with your suggestion.
: >
: > 1.7 - Is there a supporting website for this list?
: >
: > Yes, there is. It is located at:
: >
: > http://beginners.perl.org/
: >
: > 1.8 - Who owns this list? Who do I complain to?
: >
: > Casey West owns the beginners-cgi list. You can contact him at
: > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
: >
: > 1.9 - Who currently maintains the FAQ?
: >
: > Kevin Meltzer, who can be reached at the email address (for FAQ
: > suggestions only) in question 1.6
: >
: > 1.10 - Who will maintain peace and flow on the list?
: >
: > Casey West, Kevin Meltzer and Ask Bjoern Hansen currently carry large,
: > yet padded, clue-sticks to maintain peace and order on the list. If you
: > are privately emailed by one of these folks for flaming, being
: > off-topic, etc... please listen to what they say. If you see a message
: > sent to the list by one of these people saying that a thread is closed,
: > do not continue to post to the list on that thread! If you do, you will
: > not only meet face to face with a XQJ-37 nuclear powered pansexual
: > roto-plooker, but you may also be taken off of the list. These people
: > simply want to make sure the list stays topical, and above-all, useful
: > to Perl/CGI beginners.
: >
: > 1.11 - When was this FAQ last updated?
: >
: > May 31, 2001
: >
: >2 - Questions about the 'beginners-cgi' list.
: > 2.1 - What is the list for?
: >
: > A list for beginning Perl programmers to ask questions in a friendly
: > atmosphere. The topic of the list is, of course, CGI with Perl.
: >
: > 2.2 - What is this list _not_ for?
: >
: > * SPAM
: > * Homework
: > * Solicitation
: > * Things that aren't Perl related
: > * Non Perl/CGI questions or issues
: > * Lemurs
: > 2.3 - Are there any rules?
: >
: > Yes. As with most communities, there are rules. Not many, and ones that
: > shouldn't need to be mentioned, but they are.
: >
: > * Be nice
: > * No flaming
: > * Have fun
: > 2.4 - What topics are allowed on this list?
: >
: > Basically, if it has to do with Perl/CGI , then it is allowed. If your
: > question has nothing at all to do with Perl/CGI, it will likely be
: > ignored.
: >
: > 2.5 - I want to help, what should I do?
: >
: > Subscribe to the list! If you see a question which you can give an
: > idiomatic and Good answer to, answer away! If you do not know the
: > answer, wait for someone to answer, and learn a little.
: >
: > 2.6 - Is there anything I should keep in mind while answering?
: >
: > We don't want to see 'RTFM'. That isn't very helpful. Instead, guide the
: > beginner to the place in the FM they should R :)
: >
: > 2.7 - I don't want to post a question if it is in an FAQ. Where should I
: >look first?
: >
: > Look in the FAQ! Get acquainted with the 'perldoc' utility, and use it.
: > It can save everyone time if you look in the Perl FAQs first, instead of
: > having a list of people refer you to the Perl FAQs :) You can learn
: > about 'perldoc' by typing:
: >
: > `perldoc perldoc'
: >
: > At your command prompt. You can also view documentation online at:
: >
: > http://www.perldoc.com and http://www.perl.com
: >
: >3 - Other Resources
: > 3.1 - What other websites may be useful to a beginner ?
: >
: > * Perl Home Page - http://www.perl.com
: > * PerlMonks - http://www.perlmonks.org
: > * Perldoc - http://www.perldoc.com
: > * Perl Archives - http://www.perlarchives.com
: > 3.2 - What resources may be harmful to a beginner?
: >
: > Anything having to do with the names Matt Wright, or Selena Sol. Why?
: > You may ask yourself. Well, their scripts are old and have been known to
: > be buggy, as well as have security issues. They were written in the days
: > of Perl 4. This means there is no scoping, stricture, warnings, idioms,
: > or file locking to name a few issues. Because of this, it may be best to
: > not steer a new Perl programmer to their code. It is easier to learn the
: > correct way the first time, rather than have to relearn (or reteach) bad
: > habits that are picked up.
: >
: > 3.3 - What books would be good?
: >
: > * Writing CGI Applications with Perl, by Kevin Meltzer/Brent Michalski
: > (Addison-Wesley)
: > * Programming Perl, 3rd Ed. by Larry Wall, et al. (O'Reilly)
: > * Learning Perl, 3rd Ed. by Randal Schwartz, et al. (O'Reilly)
: > * Perl Cookbook, by Nat Torkington/Tom Christiansen (O'Reilly)
: > * Mastering Regular Expressions, by Jeffrey Friedl (O'Reilly)
: > * Effective Perl Programming, by Joseph N. Hall (Addison-Wesley)
: > * Network Programming with Perl, by Lincoln Stein (Addison-Wesley)
: > * Object Oriented Perl, by Damian Conway (Manning)
: > * Elements of Perl Programming, by Andrew Johnson (Manning)
: > * Data Munging with Perl, by Dave Cross (Manning)
: > * Teach Yourself Perl in 24 Hours, by Clinton Pierce (Sams)
: > * Beginning Perl, by Simon Cozens (Wrox)
: > 3.4 I use IRC, any helpful Perl channels out there?
: >
: > Glad you asked! There is indeed a place where you can ask all your Perl
: > questions on IRC.
: >
: > Network: irc.rhizomatic.net
: > Channel: #perl-help
: >4 - Think Before Posting!
: > Please always think before you write; when you write you are taking the
: > time of over a thousand people.
: >
: > If what you write takes just 30 seconds to read, that's more than 8
: > hours(!) of time burned that could have been used writing code. :)
: >
: > So please keep the following things in mind when posting:
: >
: > * Before you write a question please make sure you've checked all the
: > FAQs and the documentation you know of.
: > * Before you write an answer, make sure you that you really are
: > contributing to a solution and doublecheck that noone else already gave
: > the same answer.
: > * If your question is about LWP (accessing webpages from Perl), DBI
: > (accessing databases from Perl), or general Perl questions, there are
: > other mailinglists you should use.
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: > * If you think what you are writing may be taken in a way you didn't
: > intend, please add a smiley :-) Many flame wars are stopped by a simple
: > smiley!
: > * No flames. If your fingers are burning as you are typing the email, it
: > would likely be best not to send it.
: > __END__
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I remember when shooting yourself in the foot with a BB gun was a big
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