Its a point I tried to make in a larger context in "This Old Rock," (Analog 
'97, collected in Prelude to Stars) about a housing inspection of the asteroid 
habitat of a young going-it-alone couple.   The dead are not free; they are the 
most completely constrained of anyone.  What we independent-thinking 
curmudgeons (I use an inclusive "we" because I rememble that remark) need to 
focus on is maximizing our individual freedom within the constraints of our 
reality, and recognize that government is not the only threat to our liberty.  
Far from it.

--Best, Gerald


Gerald D. Nordley
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-----Original Message-----
From: Frank Wu <qarlo...@hotmail.com>
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That's a really good point, Gerry. 
At the Nebula Awards a couple years ago, I talked to astronaut Dr Kjell 
Lindgren and the topic of clipping your toenails in space randomly came up. You 
need to be super-tidy about those things because they get EVERYWHERE - tho 
luckily the air filters will pull them out of circulating air.  What Gerry 
described as social pressure Lindgren called "the need to not be a bad 
teammate."
Indeed - some might find the policing of toe nail clipping technique 
"oppressive".
Frank


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Sent: Thursday, February 4, 2021 5:05 PM
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Subject: Re: [Basfa] Fw: Space Settlement 2021, space.com A space colony, 
especially a distant and self sufficient one, can collectively be freer from 
external threats than anyone on Earth.  But the constraints on individual 
behavior may necessarily be far more stringent.  Air, food, and water 
management are obvious examples, but there may also be a kind of "small town" 
pressure for social conformity that a lot of us would find opressive.  
Paradoxically, the most free society from an individual standpoint might be a 
low population density socialist structure, where the robotic economy provides 
a societal floor of basic food, shelter, medical care and some income. 


Gerald D. Nordley
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www.gdnordley.com


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#yiv9325531920 #yiv9325531920 --#yiv9325531920x_yiv8534473119 p 
{margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;}#yiv9325531920 Space is full of opportunities to 
make our own free societies.  See space.com today.
Live long and prosper - KennitaFrom: Kennita Watson
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Subject: Space Settlement 2021, space.com The National Space Society is running 
an all-day symposium on the future of humans in space.  Tune in space.com .
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