Thank you, Michael. I think I'm the one who put in the 1989, because I mis-calculated when trying to work it out. I knew that it had to be between 1987 and 1993, because I was working for Blue Shield of California at the time of the formation. I thought I was at Meeting Zero, but I'm not absolutely certain now.
I've updated the BASFA web site accordingly. Kevin From: basfa-boun...@lists.basfa.org [mailto:basfa-boun...@lists.basfa.org] On Behalf Of Michael Wallis Sent: Monday, February 28, 2011 10:48 AM To: basfa@lists.basfa.org Subject: Re: [Basfa] Wikipedia Updated the article with corrected date of formation (1991). I know it wasn't 1989 because I moved to the Bay Area then (West Pittsburg, now called BayPoint) and didn't get involved with Bay Area fandom until early 1991. Dave and Marli Medinnus, Lamont and Mitzi Jones, myself and several other concom staff were sitting in the Quiet Bar at the (then) Red Lion Hotel after about the 4th or 5th weekend in a row of having concom meetings for one convention or another (Baycon, Silicon, Timecon, a media con and something else) and Dave was complaining that we only ever see each other at committee meetings. I suggested starting a social club where we could actually have fun. Dave asked how. I told him the 5 Rules for starting a club or organization: 1. Set a date 2. Set a time 3. Set a place 4. Tell people 5. Do it again Dave called the next day (a Monday in July) and said "Coco's at Lawrence and Oakmead, 8:00 pm, Wednesday." There were 28 people at the first meeting. My "Numismatic Responsibility Act" was proposed and adopted. Dave was elected President. I think Lamont was Treasurer. We've met (mostly) weekly since then. We've met at various other locations over the years. Activities at meetings have come and gone (we used to be a hotbed of Hearts playing back in the day), but the club goes on. And Death will not release it. Michael Wallis (President Emeritis) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- michaelwal...@me.com<mailto:michaelwal...@me.com> H: 408 735-0403 C: 408 396-9037 On Feb 28, 2011, at 10:10 AM, Standlee, Kevin wrote: I don't know of automated systems, but of course other people can undo people's edits. Look at a pages History to see who made the changes. Kevin From: basfa-boun...@lists.basfa.org<mailto:basfa-boun...@lists.basfa.org> [mailto:basfa-boun...@lists.basfa.org] On Behalf Of Mark Jansen Sent: Monday, February 28, 2011 9:57 AM To: basfa@lists.basfa.org<mailto:basfa@lists.basfa.org> Cc: allen.wadd...@gmail.com<mailto:allen.wadd...@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [Basfa] Basfa Digest, Vol 47, Issue 14 Here's a really stupid question: I've made Wikipedia entries and edits over the years, but a friend has recently tried but his edits get consistently rejected. Doesn't seem like he's adding any inaccurate, offensive, or self-serving content. Is there some new form of vetting or auto-reject mechanism in effect on Wikipedia? Tnanks, Mark Jansen ________________________________ From: basfa-boun...@lists.basfa.org<mailto:basfa-boun...@lists.basfa.org> [mailto:basfa-boun...@lists.basfa.org] On Behalf Of allen.wadd...@gmail.com<mailto:allen.wadd...@gmail.com> Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2011 6:15 PM To: basfa@lists.basfa.org<mailto:basfa@lists.basfa.org> Subject: Re: [Basfa] Basfa Digest, Vol 47, Issue 14 This is probably a stupid question but I noticed the BASFA web page does not link to the wikipedia entry either. Could you add that link to the links page at basfa.com<http://basfa.com/>? Allen Waddell deep lurker On Feb 27, 2011 10:04am, basfa-requ...@lists.basfa.org<mailto:basfa-requ...@lists.basfa.org> wrote: > Send Basfa mailing list submissions to > > basfa@lists.basfa.org<mailto:basfa@lists.basfa.org> > > > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > http://lists.basfa.org/listinfo.cgi/basfa-basfa.org > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > > basfa-requ...@lists.basfa.org<mailto:basfa-requ...@lists.basfa.org> > > > > You can reach the person managing the list at > > basfa-ow...@lists.basfa.org<mailto:basfa-ow...@lists.basfa.org> > > > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > > than "Re: Contents of Basfa digest..." > > > > > > Today's Topics: > > > > 1. Re: BASFA Wikipedia Listing Threatened (Bob) > > 2. Re: BASFA Wikipedia Listing Threatened (Lisa Deutsch Harrigan) > > 3. Re: BASFA Wikipedia Listing Threatened (Rick Moen) > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Message: 1 > > Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 11:32:59 -0800 > > From: Bob rhole2...@gmail.com<mailto:rhole2...@gmail.com>> > > To: "Standlee, Kevin" > standlee.ke...@menloworldwide.com<mailto:standlee.ke...@menloworldwide.com>> > > Cc: "BASFA \(ba...@basfa.org\)" ba...@basfa.org<mailto:ba...@basfa.org>> > > Subject: Re: [Basfa] BASFA Wikipedia Listing Threatened > > Message-ID: > > zy9p5ycflrjgj9qgu3hmr98...@mail.gmail.com<mailto:zy9p5ycflrjgj9qgu3hmr98...@mail.gmail.com>> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > > > My IP address (as usual - regardless of where I live or try to access) > > is blocked from signing in to Wikipedia. The major complaint seems to > > be lack of external "independent" web pages mentioning BASFA. > > > > In addition to argument, providing such links and information would be > > of help to prevent the deletion or threat of deletion for the future. > > > > If you own an appropriate website, it might be a good thing to put > > some information about BASFA on it, then provide someone who can edit > > the Wikipedia page with the link. > > > > Here's what I can offer: > > > > http://www.radio-sf.com/home/radio-scifi-links > > > > And a link for the twitter hashtag #basfa (so talk it up people - > > right now there's only one tweet listed! "older tweets no available") > > > > http://twitter.com/#search?q=%23basfa > > > > Science Fiction/San Francisco (which publishes the minutes) > > > > http://efanzines.com/SFSF/index.htm > > > > Hope that helps! > > > > Bob > > > > On Sat, Feb 26, 2011 at 8:28 AM, Standlee, Kevin > > standlee.ke...@menloworldwide.com<mailto:standlee.ke...@menloworldwide.com>> > wrote: > > > BASFA's listing in Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basfa has been > > marked for deletion, again, by the exclusionist "RadioFan," who as far as I > > can tell only wants things included in Wikipedia that he's personally heard > > of or that have been printed in paper form that can also be seen online. > > *grump* People who can argue for the "notability" of the club in the > > labyrinthine way that Wikipedia discusses things may want to get involved > > here. > > > > > > Kevin > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Basfa mailing list > > > Basfa@lists.basfa.org<mailto:Basfa@lists.basfa.org> > > > http://lists.basfa.org/listinfo.cgi/basfa-basfa.org > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 2 > > Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 14:15:05 -0800 > > From: Lisa Deutsch Harrigan l...@harrigan.org<mailto:l...@harrigan.org>> > > To: "BASFA \(ba...@basfa.org\)" ba...@basfa.org<mailto:ba...@basfa.org>> > > Subject: Re: [Basfa] BASFA Wikipedia Listing Threatened > > Message-ID: > 4d697b69.7060...@harrigan.org<mailto:4d697b69.7060...@harrigan.org>> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > > > Not sure where to put this in our wikipedia article, but File 770 has a > > brief article on us http://file770.com/?p=1668 . If nothing else, it > > shows that someone thought we were worthy of a News Report. > > > > Lisa > > > > On 2/26/2011 8:28 AM, Standlee, Kevin wrote: > > > BASFA's listing in Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basfa has been > > marked for deletion, again, by the exclusionist "RadioFan," who as far as I > > can tell only wants things included in Wikipedia that he's personally heard > > of or that have been printed in paper form that can also be seen online. > > *grump* People who can argue for the "notability" of the club in the > > labyrinthine way that Wikipedia discusses things may want to get involved > > here. > > > > > > Kevin > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Basfa mailing list > > > Basfa@lists.basfa.org<mailto:Basfa@lists.basfa.org> > > > http://lists.basfa.org/listinfo.cgi/basfa-basfa.org > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 3 > > Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 15:10:55 -0800 > > From: Rick Moen r...@linuxmafia.com<mailto:r...@linuxmafia.com>> > > To: basfa@lists.basfa.org<mailto:basfa@lists.basfa.org> > > Subject: Re: [Basfa] BASFA Wikipedia Listing Threatened > > Message-ID: > 20110226231055.ga32...@linuxmafia.com<mailto:20110226231055.ga32...@linuxmafia.com>> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > > > Quoting Lisa Deutsch Harrigan (l...@harrigan.org<mailto:l...@harrigan.org>): > > > > > Not sure where to put this in our wikipedia article, but File 770 > > > has a brief article on us http://file770.com/?p=1668 . If nothing > > > else, it shows that someone thought we were worthy of a News Report. > > > > What is needed is items that can be credibly maintained to be mentions > > in paper media. > > > > Here is an SFGate.com<http://SFGate.com/> citation of BASFA in a June 26, > 2005 article by > > reporters Delfin Vigil and Michael Berry about Bay Area bookstores. > > It's somewhere between possible and likely that the > articles.sfgate.com<http://articles.sfgate.com/> > > item reflects a contemporaneous article in the _S.F. Chronicle_, though > > I can't prove that. > > > > http://articles.sfgate.com/2005-06-26/entertainment/17377296_1_fiction-sci-fi-science > > > > It's a pity that the BASFA Web site hasn't kept links to articles that > > mention us, as I'm sure there have been a few; they're just challenging > > to find. Our current archive for the mailing list goes back only to > > 2007. I've searched the cumulative mbox file > > (http://lists.basfa.org/private.cgi/basfa-basfa.org.mbox/basfa-basfa.org.mbox), > > and it has plenty of mentions of magazine articles on a variety of > > things, but none about BASFA itself. > > > > -- > > Rick Moen "People who spell 'voila' as 'viola' should be > > r...@linuxmafia.com<mailto:r...@linuxmafia.com> responded to with voilence." > -- FakeAPStylebook > > McQ! (4x80) > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Basfa mailing list > > Basfa@lists.basfa.org<mailto:Basfa@lists.basfa.org> > > http://lists.basfa.org/listinfo.cgi/basfa-basfa.org > > > > > > End of Basfa Digest, Vol 47, Issue 14 > > ************************************* > _______________________________________________ Basfa mailing list Basfa@lists.basfa.org<mailto:Basfa@lists.basfa.org> http://lists.basfa.org/listinfo.cgi/basfa-basfa.org
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