I mean if you can afford ESM pricing and have that need to get access to bareos software maybe you should send a request to sales about getting a subscription :-)
On Thursday, 23 January 2025 at 11:14:53 UTC+1 IT PI wrote: > Dear Bareos, > > I work for an international nonprofit and I chose bareos in 2015 as our > backup system, and I never looked back - it is really fantastic software > (if you dedicate a bit of time initially to read the documentation). > Especially the fact that we can have a separate storage daemon in our > office for tapes while having all the rest in the server room of a partner > organization (so we don't annoy them needing weekly access to change tapes). > > However, as previous posters mentioned, time is scarce and new systems > cost quite a lot of money. > > I have one (important) physical server running Ubuntu 18.04 which gets > security updates until 2028 through ESM (https://ubuntu.com/security/esm). > Of course, replacing it has been planned for some years but budget and time > constraints didn't allow that. Currently there is bareos-filedaemon v21 > installed. I would like to upgrade the filedaemon v22 (or v23 if > dependencies work, while not officially released for 18.04) but would also > like to have a backup of the 2 deb files (bareos-filedaemon and > bareos-common) in case I face a major problem and would need to reinstall > v21 bareos client (I think I can do something like dpkg-repack but would > rather just download those 2 files). > > However, I cannot find them anymore. > > If old packages of community editions could still be made available > online, that would be really great. Officially 18.04 and even 16.04 can > still be run with ESM (maybe something similar exists for other > distributions) > > thank you, > > On Monday, July 17, 2023 at 5:20:59 PM UTC+2 Hwid DUNES wrote: > >> May I present my REX about the policy change. >> >> I choose bareos in 2018 because it was recommended by the French >> Government. We are a French High School, with our own datacenter. My team >> operates 100 virtual machines and nearly 20 physical ones for hosting web >> sites and applications. Some of them are very very old. My oldest is Debian >> 3.1 ! Please don't laught. It's realy hard to maintain and to keep secure. >> Old stuffs with huge amount of data cost a lot to move to modern versions. >> The main word is if it's works don't fix it. That's why we need old bareos >> versions. >> >> My oldest bareos client version is 15. Directory and Storage are running >> version 19.2.7 on Debian 9 and Debian 10. I'd like to move the director and >> storage to Debian 12 / Bareos 22, but we have higher priorities. It's not >> planned yet. >> >> The policy change on old version repository broke all my automatic bareos >> deployment over those 100 virtual machines and 20 physical hosts. And >> bareos version 22 is only available for maintained Linux distributions. I >> was only aware of the policy change after analysing the broken situation. >> Killing old software is a serious issue for the open source world. >> >> I am wondering about compiling and packaging our .deb packages for old >> debian versions with an accurate bareos version, may be opening a public >> debian repository for that. Or leaving bareos... >> >> Having to pay to have acces to old version is not fair. But paying for >> having accurate versions on old linux distribution would awesome. >> >> Best regards. >> >> Nicolas / HWID DUNES Team / Lyon / France >> >> Le mercredi 31 mai 2023 à 11:42:37 UTC+2, Andreas Rogge a écrit : >> >> Am 31.05.23 um 10:15 schrieb Willem Basson: >> > Indeed, we had 18 months. But we didn't know that we had 18 months, >> > because old versions were historically still available, so readying >> > ourselves for Bareos upgrades hasn't featured as the most important >> > thing to do yet. We made a temporary plan by pulling old packages out >> > of our backups for the time being. >> I'm glad you found a solution that works for you right now. >> We also realize that a lot of people are running old version of Bareos >> (a lot of people still seem to run 17.2). What we're trying to do is to >> "push" the community to switch to the latest version, so we get more >> feedback on that. >> Breaking anyone's Bareos setup was definitely not one of our goals! >> >> > What would have been great, is for at least a short period of time, >> > there was also a 'previous' repo at downloads.bareos.org. Even a month >> > or 3 would suffice. Right now, there is now way to cleanly and >> > confidently move servers from one version to another. But I totally >> > understand if your reasoning is that we need to pay if we need that >> > functionality, since you don't recommend using the community version in >> > production. >> We announced that change. On December 19th 2022 when the new release >> policy was announced, we clearly stated that outdated and discontinued >> versions of Bareos will be removed from the download server. >> That new release policy was also mentioned in the press release for >> Bareos 22. >> While the policy change basically stated that old packages would go away >> immediately, we left the packages there for more than four months so >> people had some time to adapt and migrate. >> >> I somehow feel that we're bad at communicating stuff like that, because >> a lot of people seem to not have noticed before the packages actually >> went away. >> If anybody has an idea how we can improve on that, please go ahead and >> tell us! >> >> > Maybe I should reach out to sales about bulk licensing? >> That would be nice. I spoke to sales yesterday and explained your >> situation. If you reach out to them, I'm pretty sure they can come up >> with some kind of solution that works for you. >> >> Best Regards, >> Andreas >> >> -- >> Andreas Rogge andrea...@bareos.com >> Bareos GmbH & Co. KG Phone: +49 221-630693-86 >> http://www.bareos.com >> >> Sitz der Gesellschaft: Köln | Amtsgericht Köln: HRA 29646 >> Komplementär: Bareos Verwaltungs-GmbH >> Geschäftsführer: Stephan Dühr, Jörg Steffens, Philipp Storz >> >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "bareos-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to bareos-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/bareos-users/77702dce-f1e2-460d-963f-cc2c56e084cbn%40googlegroups.com.
