Guys, I'm new to the group.subscribed after a couple of people pointed
towards you guys on twitter...here's the thing: I need guidance to properly
understand python -i like coding but have minimalistic knowledge of any
particular language.have only studied c/c++ at college level and not in
depth.so, any pointers for a starter from the passionate here?
On 3 Nov 2011 16:30, <bangpypers-requ...@python.org> wrote:

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> Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2011 16:28:19 +0530
> From: Sidu Ponnappa <lorddae...@gmail.com>
> To: Bangalore Python Users Group - India <bangpypers@python.org>
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>        you share your experiences about Python Freelance programming, from
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> > We have a rather good work environment. But trying to convince
> > freshers of this is close to impossible, as they have inflated ideas
> > about what the IT industry is really like.
> This is one of the reasons we only hire proven hackers from among
> freshers - they already value things we do to.
>
> Otherwise, we prefer folks that have spent a year or two in Big IT and
> are tired of the politics, back biting and overhead associated with
> it. As importantly, they no longer find a big campus with 10k people
> on it such a cool idea after having been stuck in one (and having
> spent a couple of hours a day travelling to get there).
>
> TL;DR - you may actually want to target folks around you at the IT
> park rather than freshers. They'll be more amenable to what you're
> pitching to them.
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> On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 2:31 AM, Rajeev J Sebastian
> <rajeev.sebast...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 11:05 PM, Sidu Ponnappa <lorddae...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>> Do you do your tests in Python, or whatever language the fresher
> >>> knows? So far, we have not received a single resume mentioning Python.
> >> Any object oriented language the candidate is comfortable with is fine
> >> by us. Unit tests are, however, mandatory. TDD is a huge plus.
> >>
> >>> Question is, how much to pay?
> >> Figure out who your competition in the hiring space is (this could be
> >> very very different from your business competitors). Find out how much
> >> they pay. Then do your best to pay more. For us, this means companies
> >> like ThoughtWorks, Amazon and co. We try to pay salaries that are
> >> close to these firms (though matching Amazon is still slightly beyond
> >> us for now).
> >>
> >>> From the freshers point of view though, their friends making insane
> >>> salaries at MNCs always make them dissatisfied. Any recommendations?
> >> Yes - pay more than the MNCs or at least get close and compensate for
> >> the delta with a brilliant work environment. Unfortunately, I have no
> >> better answer than this. Folks typically evaluate a prospective
> >> employer on salary, work environment (including how awesome
> >> prospective colleagues are, how much they can learn, and how
> >> transparent and honest the organisations is) and the work itself.
> >>
> >> There is no magic formula that allows you to hire better people while
> >> paying significantly less than your competitors, but you can usually
> >> swing it by being somewhere close on salary and doing better than them
> >> on the last two parameters. Honestly, a small company that can't
> >> trounce an MNC on work environment is doing something seriously wrong.
> >
> > We have a rather good work environment. But trying to convince
> > freshers of this is close to impossible, as they have inflated ideas
> > about what the IT industry is really like.
> >
> >>
> >>> There is also the tug of "Bangalore".
> >> Identify why this is the case and look to plug the gaps. If the
> >> attractiveness lies in the lifestyle, then you may wish to open up a
> >> branch in Bangalore. I should warn you though that on the hiring
> >> front, things are no better here :)
> >
> > Thanks Sidu. All of this is really good advice.
> >
> > Regards
> > Rajeev J Sebastian
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