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On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 12:37 PM, Dhananjay Nene <dhananjay.n...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 12:34 PM, Dhananjay Nene > <dhananjay.n...@gmail.com> wrote: >> On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 12:25 PM, Gopalakrishnan Subramani >> <gopalakrishnan.subram...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> So you basically look for SMTP and also a POP3 access to the server? With >>> that you could send a mail using SMTP and retrieve using POP3 to make sure >>> the mail reached safely? There is no way to get the return receipt in SMTP >>> (sorry, I could be wrong since I coded SMTP & POP3 6 years back with limited >>> support). >> >> Only SMTP with programmatic access to query received emails is good enough. >>> >>> I used jmailsrv which is simple to configure and test on your scenarios. >>> >>> If you could share your testing strategy to test email, it would lead to >>> good discussion. >>> >> >> There is an released artifact "X". X needs to be tested for acceptance >> criteria. No code changes can be introduced into X. X sends out >> emails. Test cases need to test whether the mails got sent out >> correctly. Thus after running test sequences, the mails that have gone >> out need to be verified. The intent is to embed the mail server into >> the test case (not X). Thus outgoing emails from X will get dispatched >> to and received by the embedded mail server. Since test cases (but not >> X) have programmatic access to X and its datastore, using whatever is >> the available mail server api to query the mails it has received is >> acceptable mechanism of verification. Using a embedded python mail >> server helps the test cases to just test the received emails using >> python calls rather than having to do POP3 calls instead. >> > s/programmatic access to X and its datastore/programmatic access to > mail server and its datastore/g >> Dhananjay >> >>> >>> On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 12:42 AM, Dhananjay Nene >>> <dhananjay.n...@gmail.com>wrote: >>> >>>> On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 12:03 PM, Gopalakrishnan Subramani >>>> <gopalakrishnan.subram...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> > Use the http://hg.python.org/cpython/file/2.7/Lib/smtpd.py server. smtpd >>>> is >>>> > a proxy so only look at the client interface level, you may not need to >>>> push >>>> > to local server, no need to store to DB etc. >>>> > >>>> > you copy the file and modify and wrap to meet your automation needs and >>>> to >>>> > get the response confirmation once the mail delivered. >>>> > >>>> > SMTP RFC is very simple to code even in C++ & Java. But until or unless >>>> you >>>> > have mail client or mail proxy or a email server as your core >>>> > business/module or automating the application functional testing, you >>>> don't >>>> > need to worry about testing with real mail server. >>>> > >>>> > Since you have mentioned as automated test, I assume that you don't mean >>>> > unit testing. >>>> >>>> It is automated acceptance testing .. so testing is strictly at the >>>> system boundaries. So it has to test the released version of the >>>> artifact - without *any* changes. I presume that would constrain me >>>> from introducing a different smtpd.py >>>> >>>> > Gopal >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 11:39 PM, Dhananjay Nene >>>> > <dhananjay.n...@gmail.com>wrote: >>>> > >>>> >> On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 11:06 AM, Anand Chitipothu < >>>> anandol...@gmail.com> >>>> >> wrote: >>>> >> > 2011/8/24 Dhananjay Nene <dhananjay.n...@gmail.com>: >>>> >> >> What would be good options to embed a python mail server ? >>>> >> >> >>>> >> >> The scope is strictly restricted to automated testing. So the >>>> embedded >>>> >> >> mail server (embedded in the test cases) acts as the server which >>>> >> >> receives email and is in turn further queried to ensure receipt of >>>> >> >> email correctly. >>>> >> >> >>>> >> >> One option is http://lamsonproject.org/ >>>> >> >> >>>> >> >> Are there any other options you might suggest? >>>> >> > >>>> >> > Do you really want to run a mail server for testing? I usually monkey >>>> >> > patch the function to send email and store the emails in a global >>>> >> > variable for later access. >>>> >> > >>>> >> >>>> >> In automated acceptance testing context I believe it would be >>>> >> appropriate to implement a mail server. With unit tests, stubbing the >>>> >> mail server with a mock would've been fine. >>>> >> >>>> >> Dhananjay >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> BangPypers mailing list >>>> BangPypers@python.org >>>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> BangPypers mailing list >>> BangPypers@python.org >>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> http://blog.dhananjaynene.com twitter: @dnene google plus: >> http://gplus.to/dhananjaynene >> > > > > -- > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > http://blog.dhananjaynene.com twitter: @dnene google plus: > http://gplus.to/dhananjaynene > -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://blog.dhananjaynene.com twitter: @dnene google plus: http://gplus.to/dhananjaynene _______________________________________________ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers