On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 9:23 AM, Noufal Ibrahim <nou...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 1:49 AM, Kiran Kumar <mkir...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi Vishal, > > Here is my personal take on it as far as "bring python closer to > > corporate guys" I do not want to change the whole world to use my > favorite > > programming language instead I will find one who uses it and work for > them > > *If I really wanted* to develop only in that X language. > > I don't want anyone to 'use my favourite language' but I'd like to > work with people who have solid reasons for not using it. > One of the reasons large outfits don't use 'fringe' languages (like > say Haskell or Lisp) is that it's hard to find good pogrammers who are > proficient at it. Python and Ruby used to be elements of that fringe > but I'm inclined to think that they're moving into the mainstream now. > -Sure but you can convince the people who work with you even if they dont know why . As far as mainstream ( from the point of paying my bills ) you can add PHP and perl to the list . > > Suits are scared of their programmers leaving them at a critical stage > and being unable to find replacements. Productivity and 'cool > language' be damned. I need to get the job done and deliver something > even if it's crappy code because that's what generates the bottom > line. Engineers think differently "WTF! I can do this in 10 lines of > Python and it'll have a web interface for free. Why am I even > considering using this stone age language?!?!?!" > - I agree that getting the job done is the most important part and lots of > programmers miss that . I used to think like this a few years back but now I > don't differentiate between suits and programmers , I have seen my share of > bad bosses and bad decisions but I have also seen that lots of programmers > do not communicate their views or do not try to understand (or find out) > why some decisions are taken. > > > For successfully infiltrating the corporate market, you need to have > enough public adherents, trainings, certifications of the language. > Suits can't really understand the more subtle aspects of programmer > merit. They need tangible things like certificates and articles in > business magazines about how language X is the way of the future. > - I have absolutely no Idea about this :-) > > So, if you want Python to get there, there's a planned conference > *wink* *wink* that you might want to help out with. :) > For more details, visit http://wiki.python.org/moin/ProposalForPyConIndia - Frankly speaking I don't use python right now so I don't care if Python or XYZ gets there or any where (I only care for the job that pays my bill ) . That being said I appreciate the spirit of open source and enthusiasm of the conference and If I am in India at that time I will definitely be there . As far as help you can put down $100 USD from my side . -Kiran > > -- > ~noufal > _______________________________________________ > BangPypers mailing list > BangPypers@python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers >
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