Hello, It is a while since I have had to use Windows, but I do remember issues I had when using Retrospect to back up several windows machines. There are several comments I can make: I always thought one drive folders were called OneDrive, you seem to have a folder called OneDrive - The Delegates, which surprised me. This may have changed with versions of Windows. When I used Retrospect, I ignored the folder /Users/***/OneDrive, and this then allowed me to carry out backups without any error messages In general I don’t believe you can reliably back up the OneDrive folder as it can easily be much larger than your host machine, Windows will move the files backwards and forwards as required. If a user has several machines all using the same Windows account (and hence the same OneDrive folder) the problems get even bigger. If you do want to back up the OneDrive folder, there is a program available called rclone, which will copy files backwards and forwards from cloud services. Thus on a separate machine you can copy the onedrive folder from the cloud and then back that up. The TrueNAS system (previously FreeNAS) has a system service to do this. Of course you do need the username and password to set this up. David Waller david.wall...@blueyonder.co.uk
> On 6 May 2025, at 18:00, Rob Gerber <r...@craeon.net> wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> I hope someone can shed some light on this.
>
> I have a couple windows clients that I just starting backing up. During
> initial full backups, I am getting a few errors about a Onedrive folder (see
> below). I understand from my experience with other backup providers
> (Barracuda) that Onedrive is doing something different from a normal folder
> and it isn't easy (maybe not possible) to back up the Onedrive folder.
> Probably the files aren't local to the disk anymore. In this case, nothing
> important appears to be in the Onedrive folder, so I want to exclude the
> Onedrive folder from the backup fileset to prevent the errors from raising
> false positives during backup.
>
> I composed a wilddir string that in bwild matched the sample paths seen in my
> error output from before I applied the exclusion and the error output AFTER I
> applied the exclusion filter (see fileset below). The thing that is bothering
> me is that the wilddir exclusion string doesn't appear to be working, but
> bwild matches it against the paths that reported problems from the job before
> I entered the wilddir string, and the job after I entered the wilddir string.
> Also, I did reload the bacula-dir. I'll go reload it and do a test backup
> again, to be triple sure.
>
> 1. Why isn't my wilddir exclusion preventing bacula from attempting to back
> up the folder and its contents?
> 2. Is there anything I can do to back up a Onedrive folder correctly, without
> a need to exclude it from the backup? It is not critical to back up this
> folder in this case, but maybe in the future it would be good if I had the
> knowledge to back up a Onedrive folder for a customer (or an absolute
> certainty that it was not possible for some reason). I can say that Onedrive
> was signed in on this PC at some point, but is not anymore (credentials
> issue, probably the user changed the password). This is a local user account.
> I created a file 'test.txt' in the folder, and gave it some contents, and
> that file didn't throw any errors during a subsequent full backup (just the
> files listed below under errors gave an error). So I think bacula backed that
> test file up. Probably these files are not actually on the system, and the
> test.txt file is on the system because Onedrive isn't currently able to sync
> that file to the cloud and delete the local version, leaving only the empty
> husk of what was once a user-controlled file behind.
>
> Errors:
> 03-May 17:48 delegates-cad2-fd JobId 16: Error: Read error on file
> //?/GLOBALROOT/Device/HarddiskVolumeShadowCopy14/Users/Dtr02060719/OneDrive -
> The Delegates/Doc1.docx. ERR=The cloud operation is not supported on a
> read-only volume.
>
> 03-May 17:48 delegates-cad2-fd JobId 16: Cannot open
> "//?/GLOBALROOT/Device/HarddiskVolumeShadowCopy14/Users/Dtr02060719/OneDrive
> - The Delegates/Doc2.docx": ERR=Access to the cloud file is denied.
>
> 03-May 17:48 delegates-cad2-fd JobId 16: Cannot open
> "//?/GLOBALROOT/Device/HarddiskVolumeShadowCopy14/Users/Dtr02060719/OneDrive
> - The Delegates/Labeled Photos.docx": ERR=Access to the cloud file is denied.
>
> Sample bwild output:
> [gerber@td-bacula ~]$ bwild -f test-regex.txt
> Enter a wild-card: //?/GLOBALROOT/Device/*/Users/*/OneDrive*
> 1:
> //?/GLOBALROOT/Device/HarddiskVolumeShadowCopy12/Users/Dtr02060719/OneDrive -
> The Delegates/Doc1.docx
> 2:
> //?/GLOBALROOT/Device/HarddiskVolumeShadowCopy12/Users/Dtr02060719/OneDrive -
> The Delegates/Doc2.docx
> 3:
> //?/GLOBALROOT/Device/HarddiskVolumeShadowCopy12/Users/Dtr02060719/OneDrive -
> The Delegates/Labeled Photos.docx
> 4:
> //?/GLOBALROOT/Device/HarddiskVolumeShadowCopy12/Users/Dtr02060719/OneDrive/Doc1.docx
> 9:
> //?/GLOBALROOT/Device/HarddiskVolumeShadowCopy14/Users/Dtr02060719/OneDrive -
> The Delegates/Doc1.docx
> 10:
> //?/GLOBALROOT/Device/HarddiskVolumeShadowCopy14/Users/Dtr02060719/OneDrive -
> The Delegates/Doc2.docx
> 11:
> //?/GLOBALROOT/Device/HarddiskVolumeShadowCopy14/Users/Dtr02060719/OneDrive -
> The Delegates/Labeled Photos.docx
> Enter a wild-card:
>
> bwild test set:
> [gerber@td-bacula ~]$ cat test-regex.txt
> //?/GLOBALROOT/Device/HarddiskVolumeShadowCopy12/Users/Dtr02060719/OneDrive -
> The Delegates/Doc1.docx
> //?/GLOBALROOT/Device/HarddiskVolumeShadowCopy12/Users/Dtr02060719/OneDrive -
> The Delegates/Doc2.docx
> //?/GLOBALROOT/Device/HarddiskVolumeShadowCopy12/Users/Dtr02060719/OneDrive -
> The Delegates/Labeled Photos.docx
> //?/GLOBALROOT/Device/HarddiskVolumeShadowCopy12/Users/Dtr02060719/OneDrive/Doc1.docx
>
> C:/Users/Dtr02060719/OneDrive - The Delegates/test.txt
>
>
> //?/GLOBALROOT/Device/HarddiskVolumeShadowCopy14/Users/Dtr02060719/OneDrive -
> The Delegates/Doc1.docx
> //?/GLOBALROOT/Device/HarddiskVolumeShadowCopy14/Users/Dtr02060719/OneDrive -
> The Delegates/Doc2.docx
> //?/GLOBALROOT/Device/HarddiskVolumeShadowCopy14/Users/Dtr02060719/OneDrive -
> The Delegates/Labeled Photos.docx
>
> Fileset:
> FileSet {
> Name = "Windows-All-Drives-fs"
> IgnoreFilesetChanges = no
> Include {
> Options {
> Exclude = "yes"
> IgnoreCase= "yes"
> wilddir = "*:/Windows"
> wildfile = "*:/pagefile.sys"
> wildfile = "*:/hiberfil.sys"
> wildfile = "*:/swapfile.sys"
> wild = "*:/$Recycle.Bin"
> wild = "*:/$recycler"
> wild = "*:/Program Files (x86)"
> wild = "*:/Program Files"
> wild = "*:/recycler/"
> wild = "*:/users/all users/microsoft help/"
> wild = "*:/users/all users/microsoft/"
> wild = "*:/i386/"
> wild = "*:/msocache/"
> wilddir = "//?/GLOBALROOT/Device/*/Users/*/OneDrive*/"
>
> }
> Options {
> #compression=GZIP
> #compression=LZO
> compression=ZSTD
> IgnoreCase= "yes"
> Signature = "SHA512"
> OneFS = "no"
> DriveType = fixed, removable # this means that we will not back up
> cdrom, ramdisk, or remote (network) drives.
> verify = pins3
> }
> File = /
> }
> }
>
> Full Joblog:
> td-bacula-sd JobId 16: End of medium on Volume "Synology-Local-Full-0016"
> Bytes=53,687,078,176 Blocks=832,203 at 03-May-2025 17:25.
> td-bacula-dir JobId 16: There are no more Jobs associated with Volume
> "Synology-Local-Full-0014". Marking it purged.
> td-bacula-dir JobId 16: All records pruned from Volume
> "Synology-Local-Full-0014"; marking it "Purged"
> td-bacula-dir JobId 16: Recycled volume "Synology-Local-Full-0014"
> td-bacula-sd JobId 16: Recycled volume "Synology-Local-Full-0014" on File
> device "Synology-Local-005" (/mnt/synology/bacula/Synology-Local), all
> previous data lost.
> td-bacula-sd JobId 16: New volume "Synology-Local-Full-0014" mounted on
> device "Synology-Local-005" (/mnt/synology/bacula/Synology-Local) at
> 03-May-2025 17:25.
> td-bacula-sd JobId 16: End of medium on Volume "Synology-Local-Full-0014"
> Bytes=53,687,079,676 Blocks=832,203 at 03-May-2025 17:40.
> td-bacula-dir JobId 16: There are no more Jobs associated with Volume
> "Synology-Local-Full-0015". Marking it purged.
> td-bacula-dir JobId 16: All records pruned from Volume
> "Synology-Local-Full-0015"; marking it "Purged"
> td-bacula-dir JobId 16: Recycled volume "Synology-Local-Full-0015"
> td-bacula-sd JobId 16: Recycled volume "Synology-Local-Full-0015" on File
> device "Synology-Local-005" (/mnt/synology/bacula/Synology-Local), all
> previous data lost.
> td-bacula-sd JobId 16: New volume "Synology-Local-Full-0015" mounted on
> device "Synology-Local-005" (/mnt/synology/bacula/Synology-Local) at
> 03-May-2025 17:40.
> delegates-cad2-fd JobId 16: Error: Read error on file
> //?/GLOBALROOT/Device/HarddiskVolumeShadowCopy14/Users/Dtr02060719/OneDrive -
> The Delegates/Doc1.docx. ERR=The cloud operation is not supported on a
> read-only volume.
> delegates-cad2-fd JobId 16: Cannot open
> "//?/GLOBALROOT/Device/HarddiskVolumeShadowCopy14/Users/Dtr02060719/OneDrive
> - The Delegates/Doc2.docx": ERR=Access to the cloud file is denied.
> .
> delegates-cad2-fd JobId 16: Cannot open
> "//?/GLOBALROOT/Device/HarddiskVolumeShadowCopy14/Users/Dtr02060719/OneDrive
> - The Delegates/Labeled Photos.docx": ERR=Access to the cloud file is denied.
> .
> delegates-cad2-fd JobId 16: VSS Writer (BackupComplete): "Task Scheduler
> Writer", State: 0x1 (VSS_WS_STABLE)
> delegates-cad2-fd JobId 16: VSS Writer (BackupComplete): "VSS Metadata Store
> Writer", State: 0x1 (VSS_WS_STABLE)
> delegates-cad2-fd JobId 16: VSS Writer (BackupComplete): "Performance
> Counters Writer", State: 0x1 (VSS_WS_STABLE)
> delegates-cad2-fd JobId 16: VSS Writer (BackupComplete): "System Writer",
> State: 0x1 (VSS_WS_STABLE)
> delegates-cad2-fd JobId 16: VSS Writer (BackupComplete): "ASR Writer", State:
> 0x1 (VSS_WS_STABLE)
> delegates-cad2-fd JobId 16: VSS Writer (BackupComplete): "MSSearch Service
> Writer", State: 0x1 (VSS_WS_STABLE)
> delegates-cad2-fd JobId 16: VSS Writer (BackupComplete): "WMI Writer", State:
> 0x1 (VSS_WS_STABLE)
> delegates-cad2-fd JobId 16: VSS Writer (BackupComplete): "Shadow Copy
> Optimization Writer", State: 0x1 (VSS_WS_STABLE)
> delegates-cad2-fd JobId 16: VSS Writer (BackupComplete): "Registry Writer",
> State: 0x1 (VSS_WS_STABLE)
> delegates-cad2-fd JobId 16: VSS Writer (BackupComplete): "SqlServerWriter",
> State: 0x1 (VSS_WS_STABLE)
> delegates-cad2-fd JobId 16: VSS Writer (BackupComplete): "COM+ REGDB Writer",
> State: 0x1 (VSS_WS_STABLE)
> td-bacula-sd JobId 16: Elapsed time=01:23:03, Transfer rate=27.23 M
> Bytes/second
> td-bacula-sd JobId 16: Sending spooled attrs to the Director. Despooling
> 116,076,178 bytes ...
> td-bacula-dir JobId 16: Bacula td-bacula-dir 15.0.2 (21Mar24):
> Build OS: x86_64-redhat-linux-gnu-bacula redhat (Blue
> JobId: 16
> Job: Backup-delegates-cad2.2025-05-03_16.27.52_48
> Backup Level: Full (upgraded from Incremental)
> Client: "delegates-cad2-fd" 15.0.2 (21Mar24) Windows 10 Pro
> Professional (build 19045), 64-bit,Cross-compile,Win64
> FileSet: "Windows-All-Drives-fs" 2025-04-30 18:33:06
> Pool: "Synology-Local-Full" (From Job FullPool override)
> Catalog: "MyCatalog" (From Client resource)
> Storage: "Synology-Local" (From Pool resource)
> Scheduled time: 03-May-2025 16:27:52
> Start time: 03-May-2025 16:27:58
> End time: 03-May-2025 17:51:24
> Elapsed time: 1 hour 23 mins 26 secs
> Priority: 10
> FD Files Written: 296,441
> SD Files Written: 296,441
> FD Bytes Written: 135,631,132,946 (135.6 GB)
> SD Bytes Written: 135,715,702,759 (135.7 GB)
> Rate: 27093.7 KB/s
> Software Compression: 39.0% 1.6:1
> Comm Line Compression: 4.5% 1.0:1
> Snapshot/VSS: yes
> Encryption: no
> Accurate: yes
> Volume name(s):
> Synology-Local-Full-0016|Synology-Local-Full-0014|Synology-Local-Full-0015
> Volume Session Id: 11
> Volume Session Time: 1746162096
> Last Volume Bytes: 28,484,706,927 (28.48 GB)
> Non-fatal FD errors: 4
> SD Errors: 0
> FD termination status: OK
> SD termination status: OK
> Termination: Backup OK -- with warnings
> td-bacula-dir JobId 16: Begin pruning Jobs older than 3 months 5 days .
> td-bacula-dir JobId 16: No Jobs found to prune.
> td-bacula-dir JobId 16: Begin pruning Files.
> td-bacula-dir JobId 16: No Files found to prune.
> td-bacula-dir JobId 16: End auto prune.
> td-bacula-dir JobId 16: No prior or suitable Full backup found in catalog.
> Doing FULL backup.
> td-bacula-dir JobId 16: Start Backup JobId 16,
> Job=Backup-delegates-cad2.2025-05-03_16.27.52_48
> td-bacula-dir JobId 16: Connected to Storage "Synology-Local" at
> td-bacula:9103 with TLS
> td-bacula-dir JobId 16: Using Device "Synology-Local-005" to write.
> td-bacula-dir JobId 16: Connected to Client "delegates-cad2-fd" at
> delegates-cad2.local:9102 with TLS
> delegates-cad2-fd JobId 16: Connected to Storage at td-bacula:9103 with TLS
> td-bacula-sd JobId 16: Wrote label to prelabeled Volume
> "Synology-Local-Full-0016" on File device "Synology-Local-005"
> (/mnt/synology/bacula/Synology-Local)
> delegates-cad2-fd JobId 16: Generate VSS snapshots. Driver="Win64 VSS"
> delegates-cad2-fd JobId 16: Snapshot mount point: C:\
> delegates-cad2-fd JobId 16: Snapshot mount point: D:\
>
>
> Regards,
> Robert Gerber
> 402-237-8692
> r...@craeon.net
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