Ah yes, the qualstar Q24 library front panel looks identical to the BDT
Flexstor 2U panel.

My Q24 library says it is a FlexStor II in the web GUI.

BDT states they have around 70% market share in the tape library field.

https://www.bdt.de/en/products-solutions/storage-automation/

Heh, Overland Tandberg states they have a 24 tape library they call the
T24. Front panel also identical to the BDT FlexStor 2u library.

I believe BDT might only sell to OEMs, and not directly sell their
libraries.

Overall, when selecting a library you're probably going to buy a BDT
library regardless of whether it says BDT on the front or not. :)

I'd say select a library based on price, and non-encumbrance with silly
"pay us more to use the rest of your slots" licensing.

Robert Gerber
402-237-8692
r...@craeon.net

On Tue, Mar 19, 2024, 10:24 AM Rob Gerber <r...@craeon.net> wrote:

> When reviewing our options we concluded that a tape changer was a small
> additional cost compared to the cost of a tape drive. It also enabled
> automatic tape handling. We are in the USA and purchased a Qualstar Q24
> library. The library is network connected and has room for 2 LTO drives. It
> can use either FC or SAS, depending on the adapter you use in the library.
>
> The Q24 has a mail slot for tape import/export, but so far I've been
> unable to find a way to use mtx to move tapes to or from the mail slot. The
> only way to open or close the mail slot is the front console of the
> library, from what I've seen. I can move tapes to/from the mail slot using
> the changer web GUI. I am somewhat disappointed by this because I had hoped
> to enable automated tape interchange workflows where a script moves a tape
> from the mail slot, runs a job that deposits data to the tape, then ejects
> the tape, moves it to mail slot, then ejects mail slot. An office staff
> person removes the tape in the morning, places it into its case, and
> inserts the next tape. If the tape isn't ejected, the staff person calls IT
> since that means something went wrong. That workflow isn't possible to
> automate as far as I can see because mtx cannot see or interact with the
> mail slot. Not a huge deal, but something you might want to know. The
> workflow I've described is more commonly used with a single tape drive and
> no tape changer, but in the interest of air gapping as soon and as
> regularly as possible in my opinion it's probably among the best practices
> for routinely removing small single tape backup jobs from the changer.
>
>
> If you want to do virtual full, copy, or migration jobs from LTO to LTO,
> know that you'll need two LTO drives. For these job types there must be an
> input device and an output device. Since you're already using bacula for
> backup to disk volumes, I THINK you should be able to use the disk backup
> as the input device and the LTO drive as an output device. In the case of
> having a disk backup set and an LTO drive, I think you could find copy and
> migration jobs useful since you could perhaps occasionally run off copy
> jobs from your disk backups to tape, then remove your tape media from the
> library.
>
> I have read about ransomware that automatically seeks out and attempts to
> attack tape backup systems, over-writing tape media. You already mentioned
> air gapping, but I must emphasize that actually removing backup media from
> the changer is a very good practice in defense against that sort of threat.
>
> We selected SAS, primarily because we wanted to directly contact the
> library to the tape drive, and because we didn't know anything substantial
> about FC. FC also appeared to be more expensive. When considering SAS
> adapters, we were informed by our backup hardware vendor that some SAS
> adapters don't properly support tape communication. For that reason, an
> ATTO SAS card was recommended. Our cost for that card was around $400 USD.
>
> Our vendor of choice was backupworks.com. I don't have a business
> relationship with them or any incentive for recommending them. They've just
> been really helpful in selecting hardware and their service has been good
> as we ordered additional media. I believe they are usa based, so if you are
> not then they might not be the vendor for you.
>
> I will note that some libraries in this space locked away the usage of
> some slots and perhaps some features behind upgrade licenses. I didn't like
> that idea at all, and didn't select such devices. I have been informed that
> only a couple companies are still manufacturing tape drives, only ibm is
> still researching new tape drive mechanisms. I believe the qualstar
> libraries are actually manufactured in Europe, perhaps in Germany. I have
> been told that the libraries are also being manufactured by one company and
> rebadged elsewhere. Don't know if true.
>
> Because your goal is to air gap backups, definitely consider two things
> regarding which drive you select: cost per TB, and cost per cartridge. As
> of a while ago, LTO 8 media was $5 USD / TB (raw). I haven't checked LTO 9
> media recently, but I imagine it might be more per TB. Of course, cost per
> cartridge might matter a lot if you have otherwise small backups, and if
> you want to have many cartridges as part of a routine LTO export / data
> versioning / air gap process.
>
> Robert Gerber
> 402-237-8692
> r...@craeon.net
>
> On Tue, Mar 19, 2024, 9:35 AM Gary R. Schmidt <g...@mcleod-schmidt.id.au>
> wrote:
>
>> On 20/03/2024 00:56, Anders Gustafsson wrote:
>> > Hi!
>> >
>> > We used to use tape a long time ago. Then it was CA Arcserve for Linux,
>> ran fine, but CA dropped the product
>> > so we switched to Bacula and backing up to disk. The recent surges in
>> ransom attacks has made us think of
>> > airgapping again and even a resonably small LTO drive would work for
>> our immediate needs. So the plan is to
>> > get one, plus a SAS card and install in a separate PC and run the
>> storage agent on it. At this point I am just
>> > fishing for advice and pointers. As I see it, the PC does not even need
>> to be server class and the SAS card
>> > can be a humble 4-port HBA (Adaptec HBA 1100-4i ). Does this sound like
>> a reasonable plan? Anything to watch
>> > out for?
>> >
>> Unless you are running a small and static data set, go for FC rather
>> than SAS, and an autoloader rather than just a drive.
>>
>>         Cheers,
>>                 Gary    B-)
>>
>>
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