Thank you Kern and fellow Bacula users,

I had a suspicion that was the case, but thought I would ask. I appreciate
the help and commend the community for its endeavors to work with other
users.

thank you again,

jerry

On Wed, Dec 12, 2018 at 12:25 AM Kern Sibbald <k...@sibbald.com> wrote:

> Hello,
>
> Bacula has no way to reconstruct the data in an original backup Volume.
> If you lose the Volume, it is gone.  About the only mitigating factors
> after you delete the original volumes are: as is your case, switch to using
> the Copy volume in place of the original Backup volumes;  begin re-creating
> new volumes (obviously the history for prior backups will not be available
> in those volumes).
>
> There is one other possibility that might work.  After deleting the
> original Volumes, your Copy Volumes will be promoted to being the Backup
> Volumes.  You could possibly then do a sort of reverse Copy of your Copy
> volumes (now promoted to Backup) to your on-site location.  Then by some
> SQL magic, you might be able to swap your Backup volumes and Copy volumes
> so that you will be back to the original configuration, except that your
> original Backups will be reconstructed from copies of your Copy volumes.
> To the best of my knowledge no one has ever done this, and without a lot of
> technical knowledge of the catalog formats, it is not possible.
>
> I have never been fully happy with how Copy volumes are handled, or more
> precisely the lack of control the user has from bconsole to manipulate Copy
> volumes.  Perhaps some additional future code could make situations like
> yours easier to manage.
>
> Perhaps someone else has a good idea to solve this problem.
>
> Best regards,
> Kern
>
>
>
> On 12/11/18 6:13 PM, Jerry Lowry wrote:
>
> Josh,
> Yes, I understand how the copy jobs works when the original job is
> deleted.  What I need to do is rebuild the client directories with the
> backup database using the latest offsite backup, if possible.  I don't want
> to restore the backup for the client, I want to rebuild the data in the
> directories so that a restore can be done from there.  Hope that makes
> since.  I know that I can use the offsite backups to restore the client
> data. I want to know if I can rebuild what would be the initial backup of
> the volume.
>
> thanks,
> jerry
>
> On Tue, Dec 11, 2018 at 6:18 AM Josh Fisher <jfis...@pvct.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> On 12/11/2018 1:09 AM, Jerry Lowry wrote:
>>
>> Well,  The raid was (8) 6TB disks attached to an ATTO Tech raid
>> controller in a supermicro cabinet. It was setup as a raid-5 disk array.
>> The ATTO support group know how it was configured as they have been helping
>> me since Thursday.  The raid setup is not the problem, that can be rebuilt
>> to duplicate the on disk file structure. Bacula was using this raid array
>> as storage for different clients in my network.  Each client had a
>> directory on the array and with in each directory there were anywhere from
>> 3 bacula volumes to 8 volumes. Each volume held any where from 250 GB to
>> 320 GB. Two of the clients would have an offsite backup done each week. A
>> Bacula copy job would run each week and copy that weeks backups on to a hot
>> swap raid disk running on the same system. The system was the Director and
>> Storage director combined.
>> What I want to do is to restore the daily volumes into the new raid array
>> from the offsite disks from the most recent offsite backups. Will any of
>> the bacula utilities enable me to do this?
>>
>>
>> No special tools are needed. If the original volume files no longer
>> exist, then the volumes (and their jobs) can be deleted from the catalog
>> using 'delete volume'. When bacula finds a Copy of a job when a Job is
>> deleted from the catalog, then it will automatically promote the Copy as
>> the real backup for that job so that subsequent restores use the promoted
>> copy rather than the original. The Copy literally replaces the original and
>> the original ceases to exist. At that point, a normal restore will
>> automatically use those promoted volumes. You should ensure that those
>> promoted volumes are marked as Used so that no jobs will attempt to write
>> to them.
>>
>> If auto-labeling is being used, then jobs should create new volumes as
>> needed when they run. If not, then you will manually create new empty
>> volume files in the client directories and label them using the Label
>> command from bconsole.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>> jerry
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 10, 2018 at 6:01 PM Phil Stracchino <ph...@caerllewys.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 12/10/18 7:44 PM, Jerry Lowry wrote:
>>> > Hi,
>>> > Last thursday I was adding a disk to the bacula raid array when the
>>> > system decide to fail. When it rebooted my raid array was gone. This
>>> > raid was where all of my daily backups were held, which is where I do
>>> my
>>> > offsite backups from.  The database is fine, catalog is in working
>>> > order.  I rebuilt the server and per Raid Support I have all new disks.
>>> >
>>> > I need to recreate the physical backup volumes for each of the clients
>>> > back on the raid array. I have looked at the utility document. Is bcopy
>>> > what I need to use?  I want recreate for example the file structure on
>>> > disk call /engineering/tools with the volumes "tool-3, tools-4,
>>> tools5...".
>>>
>>>
>>> In ordert to be able to answer this question, anyone here would need to
>>> know a lot more about how your RAID was set up.  But you're probably a
>>> lot better off asking for help from whoever made the tools you used to
>>> build it, or community forums for them.  They'll need to know what you
>>> built it with too.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
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