Setting the state to Recycle can also prevent recycling unfortunately.  Use
the purge command if you want to override the retention periods.

__Martin


>>>>> On Wed, 7 Dec 2016 04:55:09 +0800, Gi Dot said:
> 
> Weird thing is, after the long pruning, I decided to change the volume
> status to recycle. Done that, the backup worked fine. After that I changed
> the status of all volumes to recycle. But last night, the scheduled backup
> didn't run because of pruning vol-F1. I thought when the volume is recycled
> it will skip all the pruning part.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 4:41 AM, Gi Dot <gadi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > All of the volumes were full at the time, and have past the retention
> > period. Bacula prunes the oldest volume, and stuck at it.
> >
> > Sorry if this question is trivial, but I don't really understand purging.
> > If I were to purge a volume manually, I will definitely lose all of the
> > backups in the volume. And all the jobs associated with the volume will be
> > removed from the catalog. So how does it make me lose other backups that I
> > wanted to keep? Isn't it pretty much the same if I were to recycle the
> > volume?
> >
> > On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 3:18 AM, Martin Simmons <mar...@lispworks.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> >>>>> On Mon, 5 Dec 2016 17:40:08 +0800, Gi Dot said:
> >> >
> >> > > What exactly do you mean by "too long"? Does bacula encounter a
> >> > > timeout during the pruning from a database error?
> >> > Like it runs overnight and still not done with it. Sample log:
> >> > https://dpaste.de/wetb/raw
> >>
> >> This doesn't look like a database indexing problem to me.
> >>
> >> It looks like it needs an extra volume and fails to find one older than
> >> the
> >> retention periods.
> >>
> >> Did you expect vol-D1 to fill up?  If so, which volume should it use next?
> >> You need to look at the retention period of that volume to see why it was
> >> not
> >> recycled.
> >>
> >> BTW, forcing a volume from Used to Recycle using the update command is a
> >> bad
> >> idea because the database will bloat with unwanted file records.  You
> >> could
> >> use the purge command but beware that you might lose backups that you
> >> wanted
> >> to keep.
> >>
> >> __Martin
> >>
> >>
> >> >
> >> > Thanks.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 5:02 PM, Uwe Schuerkamp <
> >> uwe.schuerk...@nionex.net>
> >> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > On Mon, Dec 05, 2016 at 03:18:45PM +0800, Gi Dot wrote:
> >> > > > Hello,
> >> > > >
> >> > > > I have this problem with one of my client experiencing pruning of a
> >> > > volume
> >> > > > that is taking too long (and in the end I ended up recycling it
> >> manuall>> > y
> >> > > by
> >> > > > updating the volume status). I have googled up on this and from
> >> what I
> >> > > > understand it is mostly due to the database indexing (to be honest I
> >> > > don't
> >> > > > entirely understand this part).
> >> > > >
> >> > > > My question is, is there any downside or side effect if I were to
> >> > > include a
> >> > > > script that looks up for Used volume and update it to Recycle
> >> before th>> > e
> >> > > > backup runs for the day. I am using this script on another client
> >> and
> >> > > > things are going fine over there, but I'm just worried if there is
> >> any
> >> > > > impact in a long run.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > If anyone would be so kind to explain to me what exactly it means by
> >> > > > pruning; as in what bacula does when it runs pruning on a volume,
> >> it is
> >> > > > much appreciated as well. I have read somewhere that bacula removes
> >> the
> >> > > > jobs associated  with the volume from the catalog.
> >> > > >
> >> > >
> >> > > Hello Gidot,
> >> > >
> >> > > some more info could be useful to help you in analyzing your setup
> >> > > further.
> >> > >
> >> > > - Hardware specs of the director (assuming all components run on a
> >> > > single machine)
> >> > >
> >> > > - Which database are you using for the catalog?
> >> > >
> >> > > - Amount of RAM available to the DB / backend storage (disks, ssds?)
> >> > >
> >> > > - Catalog size (file table rows)
> >> > >
> >> > > - Bacula version
> >> > >
> >> > > What exactly do you mean by "too long"? Does bacula encounter a
> >> > > timeout during the pruning from a database error?
> >> > >
> >> > > All the best,
> >> > >
> >> > > Uwe
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > --
> >> > > Uwe Schürkamp | email: <uwe.schuerk...@nionex.net>
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> >

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