Hi :)

2011/6/6 Radosław Korzeniewski <rados...@korzeniewski.net>

> Hello,
>
> W dniu 6 czerwca 2011 13:57 użytkownik Buschini Edouard 
> <m...@ijaal.net>napisał:
>
> Hello Radoslaw
>>
>> Thank you for your answer.
>>
>> I have to more questions because I discover a new command in Bconsole :
>> "Prune"
>>
>> To clean I use set the retention file at 0 days then I log in to Bconsole
>> and "prune client=my_client" after that I select "Files" and finaly 'yes'.
>> Do this action trucate all data associate to my_client ? I've got 115
>> critical server to backup, I don't want to mess this up :)
>>
>>
> Pruning files means that you delete catalog database records about backuped
> files. It doesn't mean that you reclaim space allocated by a volume. If you
> want to reclaim a space allocated by volume then you have to purge a volume
> with proper action on purge setup.
>
>
>> 2011/6/6 Radosław Korzeniewski <rados...@korzeniewski.net>
>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> 2011/6/6 Buschini Edouard <m...@ijaal.net>
>>>
>>>> But today we have a big problem, we didn't anticipate a growing like
>>>> that, on our FS we are at 97% of space used. It's very problematic. And
>>>> since 1 week I'm working on free more space but it's very complicated with
>>>> Bacula.
>>>>
>>>
>>> If you are doing a backup to disk (filesystem) then you can simply delete
>>> oldest/not required volume in bacula and rm it from filesystem.
>>>
>>
>> I would, but datas from every Client are in the volume, so I cannot simply
>> delete the volume, therefor we have a rotate of 4Go volumes.
>>
>
> You can migrate some clients/jobs with Migration Job Bacula feature or do
> it manually by bcopy utility. But you have to have additional space.
>
>
I'll lookup into that when I'll clean up.

>
>>>
>>>> I've search every where but I didn't find any exploitable answers so I'm
>>>> asking here.
>>>> Do you have a prefered method to do the following task :
>>>>
>>>> Purge then Prune (I'm on auto-prune) then Truncate a volume for a client
>>>> ?
>>>>
>>>
>>> There are "best practice" for optimal volume management when you use
>>> filesystem based volumes:
>>> - use 1 job / volume
>>>
>>
>> That is a good Idea ! I noted it :)
>>
>> - use action on purge = truncate
>>>
>>
>> Already activated.
>>
>
> But is your volumes truncated by a purge command? Have you got in your logs
> something like this:
>
> 05-Jun 23:05 mars-dir JobId 0: 3307 Issuing autochanger "unload slot 20,
> drive 0" command.
> 05-Jun 23:05 mars-dir JobId 0: 3304 Issuing autochanger "load slot 35,
> drive 0" command.
> 05-Jun 23:05 mars-dir JobId 0: 3305 Autochanger "load slot 35, drive 0",
> status is OK.
> 05-Jun 23:05 mars-dir JobId 0: 3000 OK label. VolBytes=187 DVD=0
> Volume="00023" Device="FileStorageDrv0" (/bacula/tapes/drive0)
> 05-Jun 23:05 mars-dir JobId 0: *The volume "00023" has been truncated*
>

That's right I don't have that, so I assume I have to prune all the volumes
marked as Purged ? Is there a way to truncate data in a volume, cause I
wonder if some purged data are in a volume I cannot delete the volume until
its marked as prune or purge ?

>
> - adjust your retention policy and backup schedule (more Incr, less Full)
>>>
>>
>> That's why we have to rethink all the stategy.
>>
>
> Check BaseJobs feature. It provides file level deduplication if proper
> deployed.
>
Cool I'll lookup into that

>
>
>>  - use compression on client if you have enough computing power
>>>
>>
>> We have, around 80-90% data reduction.
>>
>
> Great...
>
>
>>
>> - use filesystem level compression on storage daemon
>>>
>>
>> I don't know about it ? What's that ?
>>
>
> If you use ZFS or btrfs (i believe others fs can do compression too) you
> can enable block level transparent compression. These filesystems provides a
> block level deduplication too, but current Bacula volume format limit fs
> deduplication usage.
> Remember, if you perform a data compression on client do not enable fs
> compression on storage daemon.
>
Unfortunately it's ext3 :( But I keep that in mind.

>
>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>>
>>
> Regards
>
> --
> Radosław Korzeniewski
> rados...@korzeniewski.net
>

Thank you !

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