On 9/26/07, Ross Boylan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've been having really slow backups (13 hours) when I backup a large > mail spool. I've attached a run report. There are about 1.4M files > with a compressed size of 4G. I get much better throughput (e.g., > 2,000KB/s vs 86KB/s for this job!) with other jobs. > > First, does it sound as if something is wrong? I suspect the number of > files is the key thing, and the mail spool has lots of little files > (it's used by Cyrus). Is this just life when you have lots of little > files? > > Second, how can I figure out what the problem is? I do have some > suspicions, but first some basics: > ------------------------------------------------ > everything is running on the same box > 3GHz P4 with one SATA drive as the main drive and 4 older drives, one of > which is the backup target. > No noticeable CPU load or disk activity during the backup. I was > compressing, but that doesn't show up noticeably for CPU use. > Debian GNU/Linux 2.6.18 with postgresql 8.1, bacula 2.2.13. > Disk is managed by evms, using LVM. > The partion being backed up is ext3, and the backup is going to disk (a > different physical disk, IDE) using Reiser. > > I am not using snapshotting because that feature is broken right now > (nothiing to do with bacula). I shut down the cyrus server during the > backup (desspite some errors in the log around my attempted shutdown, it > seemed to have worked). > > My suspicion is that the TCP/IP transactions are all getting delayed > (maybe to batch for sending) in a way that usually isn't noticeable, but > is noticeable when doing lots of quick exchanges locally. Not only are > my bacula components using TCP (I think), but I'm communicating with > postgres by TCP (I couldn't get authentication working properly with > unix domain sockets). > > While populating the cyrus server I also encountered very slow > transaction speeds. I think the TCP problem was the cause, though I > don't have definite confirmation. I ran multiple jobs in parallel to > populate the cyrus server to get around the slowness of the individual > parts (I think that at least rules out things like db contention or disk > contention as culprits in that case). > > Unfortunately, AFAIK the tcp delay is not tuneable on Linux; it is with > BSD. > > Here are some relevant parts of bacula-dir.conf: > > JobDefs { > Name = "CornDefaults" > Type = Backup > Level = Incremental > Client = corn-fd > Storage = File2Storage > Messages = Standard > Pool = Default > Full Backup Pool = Full > Differential Backup Pool = Differential > Incremental Backup Pool = Incremental > Priority = 10 > Write Bootstrap = "/usr/local/var/spool/bacula/%n.bsr" > } > > ######## Cyrus > ## really this needs more care: use snapshot, dump db to ascii > Job { > Name = Cyrus > JobDefs = CornDefaults > FileSet = "Cyrus Set" > Priority = 20 > Schedule = "MonthlyCycle" > Run Before Job = "super cyrus-prep" > # restart cyrus regardless of success or failure > RunScript { > RunsWhen = After > RunsOnFailure = yes > Command = "super cyrus-resume" > } > } > > FileSet { > Name = "Cyrus Set" > Include { > Options { > WildFile = "*/cyrus.squat" # about 1/4 of space in spool > WildDir = "*/junk" > WildDir = "*/spam" > WildDir = "*/trash" > WildFile = "/var/lib/cyrus/proc/*" > ignorecase = yes > Exclude = yes > } > Options { > Compression = GZIP > Signature = SHA1 > } > # these are on separate volumes > File = /var/spool/cyrus > File = /var/lib/cyrus > > File = /etc/cyrus.conf > File = /etc/imapd.conf > } > } > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: (Bacula) [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2007 14:58:46 -0700 > Subject: Bacula: Backup OK of corn-fd Full > 02-Sep 01:44 corn-dir: BeforeJob: run command "super cyrus-prep" > 02-Sep 01:44 corn-dir: BeforeJob: Stopping Cyrus IMAPd: cyrmaster. > 02-Sep 01:44 corn-dir: BeforeJob: fatal error: must run as the Cyrus user > 02-Sep 01:44 corn-dir: Start Backup JobId 118, Job=Cyrus.2007-09-02_01.05.02 > 02-Sep 01:44 corn-sd: Volume "Full2007-09-02_1065" previously written, moving > to end of data. > 02-Sep 02:44 corn-sd: User defined maximum volume capacity 681,574,400 > exceeded on device "File2Storage" (/usr/local/var/spool/bacula). > 02-Sep 02:47 corn-sd: End of medium on Volume "Full2007-09-02_1065" > Bytes=681,557,381 Blocks=10,565 at 02-Sep-2007 02:47. > 02-Sep 02:47 corn-dir: Created new Volume "Full2007-09-02_1066" in catalog. > 02-Sep 02:47 corn-sd: Labeled new Volume "Full2007-09-02_1066" on device > "File2Storage" (/usr/local/var/spool/bacula). > 02-Sep 02:47 corn-sd: Wrote label to prelabeled Volume "Full2007-09-02_1066" > on device "File2Storage" (/usr/local/var/spool/bacula) > 02-Sep 02:47 corn-sd: New volume "Full2007-09-02_1066" mounted on device > "File2Storage" (/usr/local/var/spool/bacula) at 02-Sep-2007 02:47. > 02-Sep 04:39 corn-sd: User defined maximum volume capacity 681,574,400 > exceeded on device "File2Storage" (/usr/local/var/spool/bacula). > 02-Sep 04:41 corn-sd: End of medium on Volume "Full2007-09-02_1066" > Bytes=681,568,759 Blocks=10,565 at 02-Sep-2007 04:41. > 02-Sep 04:41 corn-dir: Created new Volume "Full2007-09-02_1067" in catalog. > 02-Sep 04:41 corn-sd: Labeled new Volume "Full2007-09-02_1067" on device > "File2Storage" (/usr/local/var/spool/bacula). > 02-Sep 04:41 corn-sd: Wrote label to prelabeled Volume "Full2007-09-02_1067" > on device "File2Storage" (/usr/local/var/spool/bacula) > 02-Sep 04:41 corn-sd: New volume "Full2007-09-02_1067" mounted on device > "File2Storage" (/usr/local/var/spool/bacula) at 02-Sep-2007 04:41. > 02-Sep 07:10 corn-sd: User defined maximum volume capacity 681,574,400 > exceeded on device "File2Storage" (/usr/local/var/spool/bacula). > 02-Sep 07:13 corn-sd: End of medium on Volume "Full2007-09-02_1067" > Bytes=681,568,597 Blocks=10,565 at 02-Sep-2007 07:13. > 02-Sep 07:13 corn-dir: Created new Volume "Full2007-09-02_1068" in catalog. > 02-Sep 07:13 corn-sd: Labeled new Volume "Full2007-09-02_1068" on device > "File2Storage" (/usr/local/var/spool/bacula). > 02-Sep 07:13 corn-sd: Wrote label to prelabeled Volume "Full2007-09-02_1068" > on device "File2Storage" (/usr/local/var/spool/bacula) > 02-Sep 07:13 corn-sd: New volume "Full2007-09-02_1068" mounted on device > "File2Storage" (/usr/local/var/spool/bacula) at 02-Sep-2007 07:13. > 02-Sep 09:16 corn-sd: User defined maximum volume capacity 681,574,400 > exceeded on device "File2Storage" (/usr/local/var/spool/bacula). > 02-Sep 09:19 corn-sd: End of medium on Volume "Full2007-09-02_1068" > Bytes=681,568,644 Blocks=10,565 at 02-Sep-2007 09:19. > 02-Sep 09:19 corn-dir: Created new Volume "Full2007-09-02_1069" in catalog. > 02-Sep 09:19 corn-sd: Labeled new Volume "Full2007-09-02_1069" on device > "File2Storage" (/usr/local/var/spool/bacula). > 02-Sep 09:19 corn-sd: Wrote label to prelabeled Volume "Full2007-09-02_1069" > on device "File2Storage" (/usr/local/var/spool/bacula) > 02-Sep 09:19 corn-sd: New volume "Full2007-09-02_1069" mounted on device > "File2Storage" (/usr/local/var/spool/bacula) at 02-Sep-2007 09:19. > 02-Sep 11:37 corn-sd: User defined maximum volume capacity 681,574,400 > exceeded on device "File2Storage" (/usr/local/var/spool/bacula). > 02-Sep 11:44 corn-sd: End of medium on Volume "Full2007-09-02_1069" > Bytes=681,568,647 Blocks=10,565 at 02-Sep-2007 11:44. > 02-Sep 11:44 corn-dir: Created new Volume "Full2007-09-02_1070" in catalog. > 02-Sep 11:44 corn-sd: Labeled new Volume "Full2007-09-02_1070" on device > "File2Storage" (/usr/local/var/spool/bacula). > 02-Sep 11:44 corn-sd: Wrote label to prelabeled Volume "Full2007-09-02_1070" > on device "File2Storage" (/usr/local/var/spool/bacula) > 02-Sep 11:44 corn-sd: New volume "Full2007-09-02_1070" mounted on device > "File2Storage" (/usr/local/var/spool/bacula) at 02-Sep-2007 11:44. > 02-Sep 14:27 corn-sd: User defined maximum volume capacity 681,574,400 > exceeded on device "File2Storage" (/usr/local/var/spool/bacula). > 02-Sep 14:30 corn-sd: End of medium on Volume "Full2007-09-02_1070" > Bytes=681,568,780 Blocks=10,565 at 02-Sep-2007 14:30. > 02-Sep 14:30 corn-dir: Created new Volume "Full2007-09-02_1071" in catalog. > 02-Sep 14:30 corn-sd: Labeled new Volume "Full2007-09-02_1071" on device > "File2Storage" (/usr/local/var/spool/bacula). > 02-Sep 14:30 corn-sd: Wrote label to prelabeled Volume "Full2007-09-02_1071" > on device "File2Storage" (/usr/local/var/spool/bacula) > 02-Sep 14:30 corn-sd: New volume "Full2007-09-02_1071" mounted on device > "File2Storage" (/usr/local/var/spool/bacula) at 02-Sep-2007 14:30. > 02-Sep 14:56 corn-fd: ClientAfterJob: run command "super cyrus-resume" > 02-Sep 14:56 corn-fd: ClientAfterJob: Starting Cyrus IMAPd: cyrmaster. > 02-Sep 14:56 corn-sd: Job write elapsed time = 13:11:44, Transfer rate = > 90.52 K bytes/second > 02-Sep 14:58 corn-dir: Bacula 2.0.3 (06Mar07): 02-Sep-2007 14:58:46 > JobId: 118 > Job: Cyrus.2007-09-02_01.05.02 > Backup Level: Full > Client: "corn-fd" 2.0.3 (06Mar07) > i486-pc-linux-gnu,debian,4.0 > FileSet: "Cyrus Set" 2007-08-10 11:53:54 > Pool: "Full" (From Job FullPool override) > Storage: "File2Storage" (From Job resource) > Scheduled time: 02-Sep-2007 01:05:01 > Start time: 02-Sep-2007 01:44:28 > End time: 02-Sep-2007 14:58:46 > Elapsed time: 13 hours 14 mins 18 secs > Priority: 20 > FD Files Written: 1,393,569 > SD Files Written: 1,393,569 > FD Bytes Written: 4,101,078,152 (4.101 GB) > SD Bytes Written: 4,300,355,440 (4.300 GB) > Rate: 86.1 KB/s > Software Compression: 64.8 % > VSS: no > Encryption: no > Volume name(s): > Full2007-09-02_1065|Full2007-09-02_1066|Full2007-09-02_1067|Full2007-09-02_1068|Full2007-09-02_1069|Full2007-09-02_1070|Full2007-09-02_1071 > Volume Session Id: 3 > Volume Session Time: 1188652643 > Last Volume Bytes: 306,193,035 (306.1 MB) > Non-fatal FD errors: 0 > SD Errors: 0 > FD termination status: OK > SD termination status: OK > Termination: Backup OK > > 02-Sep 14:58 corn-dir: Begin pruning Jobs. > 02-Sep 14:58 corn-dir: No Jobs found to prune. > 02-Sep 14:58 corn-dir: Begin pruning Files. > 02-Sep 14:58 corn-dir: No Files found to prune. > 02-Sep 14:58 corn-dir: End auto prune. >
It most likely is the amount of files you are backing up which can greatly increase the amount of time a backup takes, especially when it's smaller files like files used for email. Do yourself a favor. If you really need to backup this email or these files, the best solution or the route I would try to go is to try and place these in or on hardware with snapshot capabilities. Then if you wanted, backup from the snapshot, perhaps even creating a custom script to tar or zip up these files, then back that one large file up. Is this just IMAP type email files in /var/spool or undelivered email? What type of mail is this? Does it really need to be backed up? Perhaps even asking users to clean email or setup a policy that automatically deletes emails after 30 days or slightly longer needs to be enforced. Your probably backing up email with a bunch of packrats that simply keep every single piece of email they get when they really don't necessarily need it around. Most email clients even have archive tools built in, that would be another option even. But definitely more info on type of email, users, how they retrieve their email, etc, would probably give more insight to other alternatives. -drew ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ _______________________________________________ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users