Hi, > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >>> Hello List, Hello Kern, > >>> > >>> i am addressing a well know issue regarding bacula and it´s restore > >>> feature. > >>> I have seen a list where this issue is listet as the most wanted > > feature > >>> it think. > >>> > >>> My questions: > >>> - How long will it take until moved or deleted files will be > > reconized ? > >> Someone's got to do the work. Looks like someone has been doing > >> preliminary work on it as of late, but I don't expect that it will be > > in > >> Bacula 2.2 (I could be wrong), so it will be awhile. > > > > Maybe this is a pain in the a** for a lot of people here. If noone is > > willing to tackle that problem, why don´t we all donate some money and > > pay someone to do it? > > It very well might be. For me, it is not such a problem. The biggest > concern for me, I think, is that if I restore a system with user quotas, > I might end up with some people over quota if they tend to add and > delete files a lot. In cases where files merely change a lot, this is > not really an issue. > > >>> - Is there a workaround ? > >> Don't do anything but full backups, and you will not have this > > problem. > >> To my knowledge, you have this problem with incrementals. It is > > somewhat > >> lessened by making heavy use differentials, and eliminated by doing > >> exclusively fulls. > >> > >>> - Why are GUIs more important than fixing the greatest Bug ever? :) > >> Because it is not a bug, it is the way things work. Many commercial > >> backup softwares have exactly the same problem. > > > > I would never use or even pay such a backup software. > > > > I am planing it to use it in companies, not at home for my desktop. > > > > Imagine your Sitation: The whole server goes down. You have a 10 Days > > old full backup and 9 incrementals. > > > > Now you bring the system back up but with inconsitent files and > > contents?! > > > > Try to explain that to you boss or the company you work for?! > > Since you seem to be so sure about the subject, I'd like to see you tell > me which backup software does and does not have this problem.
The Webmin Dump Backup Module has not this problem. >My > suspicion is that many of the commercial packages have the same problem > (at least that's what I remember finding out last time I looked into > this). I can't tell right now from looking at the web, as this really > isn't mentioned anyplace. How would you find out whether your choice of > software package has this limitation or not? > > > Once the GUI is done for the "lazy" people, they will find out that > > bacula is missing a reliable and professional reason. > > > > Just my 2 cent. > > > > What scares me is that this issue must be more than one year old, and > > nobody ever really complained or did something about it. > > Like I said, I suspect people are aware of it and can live with it. The > easy solution is to always conduct full backups, not incrementals. How much Storage space do you have? :) For a 200GB drive i would need 6TB to save it all! With webmin dump for example, i need about 300GB all together. Thats a little less than 6TB ;). >It's > all a question of where you want to spend your money. As far as I'm > concerned, making sure Bacula can restore all of my files is more > important than make sure it knows what I've deleted. Thats not really the point. Imagine you removed a few system packages which caused problems. Or someone has reorganized a project folder or moved some source code files to a diffrent place. After a system restore it will never be the same again. If you restore a system with bacula full and incremental, you will not end up with the same system you ran your backup on. Thats pretty scrary for me. Thats the job of a backup software in my eyes. Regards, Mario ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ _______________________________________________ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
