Hi,

23.06.2007 03:16,, Kyle Marsh wrote::
> Thank you Arno,
> 
> This is rather what I expected.  Kern seemed to say he was using the
> backup scheme from the manual with several clients, so I'd still like
> to see how that might work.

Well, Kern pointed out that this was an example, and I suppose by that 
he means that you have to modify it to your specific needs. Kern is 
more busy coding than doing user support, so I think it's expected 
that he doesn't answer in great detail...

>  However, your setup makes sense to me and
> seems less fragile, so I think I'll go with it.  I have a few
> questions that get swallowed by the listkeeper last time because I was
> dumb and sent from the wrong address (oops, just did it again):
> 
> If I understand you correctly, you create an pool for each level of
> backup and estimate how much space that will take, then pick a
> reasonable maximum size for each volume and divide the estimated pool
> size by that to get the number of volumes, rather than put each backup
> it its own volume like the example does.

Yes, that's it.

>  That seems good.

I do think so, too :-)

> 
> What, then, do you use as a "reasonable" maximum volume size?  I don't
> have a great deal of knowledge of file systems, but I recall many
> having trouble with files larger than 2GB or so.

Reasonable, modern file systems have their limits much above that.

>  On the other side, I
> found from experience that a full backup of "Documents and Settings"
> on a fresh WinXP install is about 4.2GB (it grows over time, too, even
> if the computer is completely unused).

Usually, you can exclude quite a lot of the files in there - there are 
many temorary files in there, like browser cache etc.

>  This would mean that with a
> max volume size of 2GB, the single job would be split over 3 volumes.
> I seem to remember discussion in a recent thread that bacula can
> handle this, but how nicely does the database deal with it (I'm using
> MySQL).

The catalog databases handle this without problems in my experience.

>  Are there other considerations to take into account?  If so,
> what are your recommendations.

That depends - 2 GB is a good limit if you want to be able to copy 
volume files to out-of-the-box external disks, 4.something is good for 
DVDs, 700 or so MB for CD - whatever you plan. I would limit the file 
size to something below 10GB in any case.

> On a personal note, I'd like to thank you for one of the best
> responses I've seen in the weeks I've been following this list.  You
> were polite, on-topic, helpful, and concise.  Thank you for that.

Well, I try to, usually, but I think the other posters do, too. Not 
everyone finds the time for detailed answers for all the questions, 
though, but that is expected as we're all doing this in our (limited) 
spare time... and regarding politeness - this is one of the most 
polite mailing lists I know. I guess we'll have to thank all the users 
for that!

> ~Kyle Marsh
> 

Arno

-- 
Arno Lehmann
IT-Service Lehmann
www.its-lehmann.de

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