Dear Josh

I am running concurrent backups to a Firewire attached 1 TB disc with he 
Max Concurrent Jobs set to 5 ( in my situation it seems the optimal value ).

The Incremental jobs stay on the disc for 6 weeks but the Full backups 
are migrated to tape.

I also have the problem with slow clients - usually they are running a 
long simulation program when they are being backed up.

I have not had a problem with the interleaved blocks - when the data is 
migrated to tape the Job interleaving is "removed". OK it can take some 
time to write the Full backups to tape.

I am using 2.0.3 since rease and the 1 TB disc for 2 weeks.

Regards
Stephen Carr

Kern Sibbald wrote:
> On Monday 09 April 2007 21:22, Josh Fisher wrote:
>> Kern Sibbald wrote:
>>> On Monday 09 April 2007 16:20, Josh Fisher wrote:
>>>   
>>>> There's no reason they cannot use the same pool. They just cannot write 
>>>> to the same volume concurrently. With a tape device, that would be a 
>>>> problem because there can only be one volume in the tape drive. 
>>>>     
>>> True.
>>>
>>>   
>>>> However  
>>>> with a disk device, a volume is a file, so there can be numerous volumes 
>>>> being written concurrently. 
>>>>     
>>> This is not true within Bacula. For each Device (tape, DVD, disk, 
> FIFO, ...) 
>>> Bacula has a single file descriptor thus only one Volume can be open for 
> each 
>>> Device, whether tape or disk.  Multiple jobs can be simultanously writing 
> to 
>>> that Volume.  However, since a Volume can be in only one Pool, and since 
> you 
>>> can only write to one Volume per Device, you can only be simultaneously 
>>> writing to one Pool per Device.
>>>
>>> To simultaneously write to more than one Pool, you need multiple Devices.
>>>
>>>   
>> Yes. I guess I didn't phrase that very carefully. I believe Kyle has two 
>> pools, "local_pool" and "remote_pool", and each pool  is using a 
>> different Storage resource by specifying Storage= in the Pool resource 
>> definition. I assume the Storage resources are pointing to two different 
>> SD devices. 
> 
> OK.
> 
>> In that case, specifying Maximum Volume Jobs = 1 in both of  
>> the pools should prevent the possibility of interleaving. 
> 
> That's not the best way to resolve the problem, and is likely to fail because 
> of subtle timing problems if you are running two jobs simultaneously.
> 
> To prevent interleaving of blocks, either restrict the number of simultaneous 
> jobs for that Device using any number of methods such as priorities, Max 
> simultaneous jobs for the Storage,... , or use Spooling.
> 
>> A volume from  
>> local_pool can be written concurrently with a volume from remote_pool, 
>> but only one job at a time can write to a local_pool volume and only one 
>> job at a time can write to a remote_pool volume.
>>
>>>> One way is to use Maximum Volume Jobs = 1 in  
>>>> the Pool resource definition. This will cause a new volume (ie. file) to 
>>>> be used for each job that is run.
>>>>
>>>> Kyle Tucker wrote:
>>>>     
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>   I have a new Bacula 2.0.2 setup and I am backing up to 
>>>>> disk.  I have remote clients that are very slow to backup and 
>>>>> often prevent my more important local clients from being backed 
>>>>> up due to concurrency being set to 1 as I don't want to get into 
>>>>> the issues with interleaving as it's suggested to avoid in the 
>>>>> warning section on concurrent jobs.
>>>>>   I already have things so my remote clients are in separate
>>>>> pools and I understand I can set these pools into separate Device
>>>>> resources and Bacula will allow 2 concurrent jobs to run. Is there
>>>>> a way that I can limit the 2 concurrent jobs to not run within the
>>>>> same pool, causing the interleaving blocks issue? I looked at using
>>>>> priorities, but that didn't look like it would control what I am 
>>>>> trying to do here. Thanks.
>>>>>
>>>>>   
>>>>>       
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