Hi,

On 4/3/2007 5:14 PM, James Cort wrote:
>   Arno Lehmann wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> On 4/3/2007 11:31 AM, James Cort wrote:
>>   
>>> Ryan Novosielski wrote:
>>>     
>>>> If I'm not mistaken, if you prune the job, it will take the files with
>>>> it (as there will be nothing to restore from).
>>>>       
>>> I think you may be.
>>>     
>> I think Ryan is right :-)
>>
>> You can find an explanation of the recycling algorithm in the manual: 
>> Look at the sections explaining the Retention settings in the DIR 
>> configuration.
>>   
> Yes.  As far as I can tell, I should never have had the problem I did in 
> the first place:
> 
>     Note, even if all the File and Job records are pruned from a Volume, 
> the Volume will not be marked Purged until the Volume retention period 
> expires.

Right. I thought it was different...

> Given my original configuration, I'd have expected a bunch of volumes 
> which, while not recycled, were effectively "in limbo" as there would 
> have been no jobs or file records referencing them but they'd still have 
> been stuck on their volume retention.  Therefore, I would have expected 
> Bacula to take a tape from the scratch pool.  Particularly as the volume 
> it sat around waiting for wasn't in the autochanger.

Here, too, I think your assumptions are correct.

> Unless the volume retention information wasn't updated when the volumes 
> were moved to their relevant pool from the Scratch pool.

Which is quite a common mistake :-)

>> What you want sounds like setting the File and Job Retention to a longer 
>> time than the Volume Retention period.
>>
>> I prefer a Job Retention of 30 years in such a case, and limiting the 
>> Volume retention to the actual time you want to keep your data.
>>   
> 
> AIUI, if, like me, you want to keep all the file/job data until the 
> volume itself is recycled, you'd suggest setting file and job retention 
> periods to be longer than the longest volume retention period.
> 
> I've done that.  Guess all I can do now is wait and see a few months.

Looks like this...

>>> It will be interesting to see if the volumes in the Daily pool are still 
>>> recycled when I'd expect with a rather shorter Volume retention than 
>>> File/Job retention period.
>>>     
>> Keep in mind that you have to update the existing volumes to reflect a 
>> modified configuration!
>>   
> Volumes, yes.  But the volume retention period hasn't changed - it's the 
> file/job retention periods that are changing.  I didn't think they 
> needed to be updated.

No, as far as I know this information is not stored in the catalog.

A reload might help when you modified the pool definition, but I don't 
think this is the problem here.

Good luck, and keep us informed!

Arno

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