On Monday 02 April 2007 13:27, Sebastiaan Veldhuisen wrote:
> Hmmzz,
> 
> Houston we have a problem. This is a SATA drive so hooking it up to a
> SCSI HBA is impossible.
> 
> If i run the diagnostic tests of the Quantum DLT Sage Talk, read and
> write actions are working perfectly. If the drivers was bad, this should
> fail also.

If the diagnostic was written by a disk jockey, he may have overlooked the 
subtleties of tape drives.  There is a whole lot more to a tape driver than 
read and write actions.

> 
> I guess that Bacula only supports SCSI tape drives?

Sorry but you guess wrong.  

Bacula handles disk drive, DVD, USB removable drives, and a large variety of 
tape drives.  Each has quite different characteristics.  The canonical 
definition of how a tape drive works is available in the Solaris 
documentation (the Linux SCSI driver functions the same way by default). 
Bacula can handle many tape drives that do not meet the canonical definition, 
which covers 99% of all modern tape drives out of the box, but clearly the 
farther a drive/driver is from the canonical form the more difficult it is, 
and the more difficult it is for the user to configure Bacula correctly.  
There is a minimal functionality below which Bacula cannot work -- whether or 
not that is the case with your drive/driver, I cannot say.

The output you show below points *very* strongly toward a driver problem 
(after all, it clearly says Hardware Error), but since I don't recall seeing 
your Bacula SD conf file, a problem there is also a "small" possibility.  
My best guess is that Bacula wrote off the end of the tape because the driver 
did not properly indicate to Bacula that it was approaching the end of the 
tape (i.e. logical end of tape -- see Solaris documentation for what that 
means).

In any case making an SATA driver work is probably not going to be fun.

> 
> 
> 
> On ma, 2007-04-02 at 13:14 +0200, Kern Sibbald wrote:
> > I suspect that you have a bad driver.  I don't think I have ever seen a 
> > non-SCSI tape driver that works correctly, probably because they are 
written 
> > by disk driver programmers that don't understand the subtleties of tape 
> > drivers.
> > 
> > I'd recommend that if possible you hook your drive up through a good SCSI 
> > card.  
> > 
> > On Monday 02 April 2007 00:28, Sebastiaan Veldhuisen wrote:
> > > Minor update.
> > > 
> > > I tried the bacula 2.0.0-1 debs and redid the btape fill. At the end I
> > > get the following in my kernel.log:
> > > 
> > > Apr  2 00:10:17 debian kernel: st0: Current [descriptor]: sense key:
> > > Hardware Error
> > > Apr  2 00:10:17 debian kernel:     Additional sense: No additional sense
> > > information
> > > Apr  2 00:10:17 debian kernel: Descriptor sense data with sense
> > > descriptors (in hex):
> > > Apr  2 00:10:17 debian kernel:         72 04 00 00 00 00 00 0e 09 0e 00
> > > 52 00 03 00 00 
> > > Apr  2 00:10:17 debian kernel:         00 00 00 00 a0 51 
> > > Apr  2 00:10:19 debian kernel: ata2.00: exception Emask 0x0 SAct 0x0
> > > SErr 0x0 action 0x0
> > > Apr  2 00:10:19 debian kernel: ata2.00: (BMDMA stat 0x20)
> > > Apr  2 00:10:19 debian kernel: ata2.00: tag 0 cmd 0xa0 Emask 0x1 stat
> > > 0x51 err 0x52 (device error)
> > > Apr  2 00:10:19 debian kernel: ata2: EH complete
> > > Apr  2 00:10:19 debian kernel: st0: Current [descriptor]: sense key:
> > > Hardware Error
> > > Apr  2 00:10:19 debian kernel:     Additional sense: No additional sense
> > > information
> > > Apr  2 00:10:19 debian kernel: Descriptor sense data with sense
> > > descriptors (in hex):
> > > Apr  2 00:10:19 debian kernel:         72 04 00 00 00 00 00 0e 09 0e 00
> > > 52 00 03 00 00 
> > > Apr  2 00:10:19 debian kernel:         00 00 00 00 a0 51 
> > > Apr  2 00:10:21 debian kernel: ata2.00: exception Emask 0x0 SAct 0x0
> > > SErr 0x0 action 0x0
> > > Apr  2 00:10:21 debian kernel: ata2.00: (BMDMA stat 0x20)
> > > Apr  2 00:10:21 debian kernel: ata2.00: tag 0 cmd 0xa0 Emask 0x1 stat
> > > 0x51 err 0x52 (device error)
> > > Apr  2 00:10:21 debian kernel: ata2: EH complete
> > > Apr  2 00:10:21 debian kernel: st0: Current [descriptor]: sense key:
> > > Hardware Error
> > > Apr  2 00:10:21 debian kernel:     Additional sense: No additional sense
> > > information
> > > Apr  2 00:10:21 debian kernel: Descriptor sense data with sense
> > > descriptors (in hex):
> > > Apr  2 00:10:21 debian kernel:         72 04 00 00 00 00 00 0e 09 0e 00
> > > 52 00 03 00 00 
> > > Apr  2 00:10:21 debian kernel:         00 00 00 00 a0 51 
> > > Apr  2 00:10:23 debian kernel: ata2.00: exception Emask 0x0 SAct 0x0
> > > SErr 0x0 action 0x0
> > > Apr  2 00:10:23 debian kernel: ata2.00: (BMDMA stat 0x20)
> > > Apr  2 00:10:23 debian kernel: ata2.00: tag 0 cmd 0xa0 Emask 0x1 stat
> > > 0x51 err 0x52 (device error)
> > > Apr  2 00:10:23 debian kernel: ata2: EH complete
> > > Apr  2 00:10:23 debian kernel: st0: Current [descriptor]: sense key:
> > > Hardware Error
> > > Apr  2 00:10:23 debian kernel:     Additional sense: No additional sense
> > > information
> > > Apr  2 00:10:23 debian kernel: Descriptor sense data with sense
> > > descriptors (in hex):
> > > Apr  2 00:10:23 debian kernel:         72 04 00 00 00 00 00 0e 09 0e 00
> > > 52 00 03 00 00 
> > > Apr  2 00:10:23 debian kernel:         00 00 00 00 a0 51 
> > > Apr  2 00:10:25 debian kernel: ata2.00: exception Emask 0x0 SAct 0x0
> > > SErr 0x0 action 0x0
> > > Apr  2 00:10:25 debian kernel: ata2.00: tag 0 cmd 0xa0 Emask 0x1 stat
> > > 0x51 err 0x52 (device error)
> > > Apr  2 00:10:25 debian kernel: ata2: EH complete
> > > Apr  2 00:10:25 debian kernel: st0: Current [descriptor]: sense key:
> > > Hardware Error
> > > Apr  2 00:10:25 debian kernel:     Additional sense: No additional sense
> > > information
> > > Apr  2 00:10:25 debian kernel: Descriptor sense data with sense
> > > descriptors (in hex):
> > > Apr  2 00:10:25 debian kernel:         72 04 00 00 00 00 00 0e 09 0e 00
> > > 52 00 03 00 00 
> > > Apr  2 00:10:25 debian kernel:         00 00 00 20 a0 51 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > My question is: is my problem is Bacula or kernel related?
> > > 
> > > Thanks for your time
> > > 
> > > Sebastiaan
> > > 
> > > On zo, 2007-04-01 at 11:02 +0200, Sebastiaan Veldhuisen wrote:
> > > > Hi,
> > > > 
> > > > I'm trying to get a Quantum DLT-V4 SATA to work on my Debian Etch 
Bacula
> > > > setup. My knowledge about Linux is good, but I don't have a lot of
> > > > experience with Tape drives and/ or Bacula.  Did a lot of testing with
> > > > btape (as in days), but it is still not working. I'm really done with
> > > > testing, therefore my hope is targeted at some gurus on the 
mailinglist
> > > > that can tell me what is wrong (or what I am doing wrong).
> > > > Any help would be great!
> > > > 
> > > > Some notes:
> > > > If I schedule a backup inside Bacula it works (completes 
successfully).
> > > > I can't do a restore, which gives me the same errors as with btape.
> > > > 
> > > > -------------------------------
> > > > *version
> > > > -------------------------------
> > > > debian-dir Version: 1.38.11 (28 June 2006)
> > > > 
> > > > -------------------------------
> > > > debian:~# cat /proc/scsi/scsi 
> > > > -------------------------------
> > > > Attached devices:
> > > > Host: scsi0 Channel: 00 Id: 00 Lun: 00
> > > >   Vendor: ATA      Model: SAMSUNG SP1614C  Rev: SW10
> > > >   Type:   Direct-Access                    ANSI SCSI revision: 05
> > > > Host: scsi1 Channel: 00 Id: 00 Lun: 00
> > > >   Vendor: QUANTUM  Model: DLT-V4           Rev: 0800
> > > >   Type:   Sequential-Access                ANSI SCSI revision: 02
> > > > 
> > > > -------------------------------
> > > > debian:~# cat /etc/stinit.def
> > > > -------------------------------
> > > > # QUANTUM DLT-V4
> > > > manufacturer=QUANTUM model="DLT-V4" {
> > > > timeout=3600
> > > > long-timeout=14400
> > > > can-partitions=0
> > > > drive-buffering=1
> > > > no-wait=0
> > > > buffering=0
> > > > async-writes=0
> > > > read-ahead=0
> > > > two-fms=0
> > > > auto-lock=0
> > > > fast-eom=0
> > > > can-bsr=1
> > > > noblklimits=0
> > > > mode1 blocksize=0 density=0x51 compression=1 # DLT-V4 density,
> > > > compression on
> > > > }
> > > > 
> > > > -------------------------------
> > > > device section from bacula-sd.conf:
> > > > -------------------------------
> > > > Device {
> > > >   Name = DLT-V4
> > > >   Media Type = DLT
> > > >   Archive Device = /dev/nst0
> > > >   LabelMedia = yes;
> > > >   AutomaticMount = yes;               # when device opened, read it
> > > >   AlwaysOpen = no;
> > > >   RemovableMedia = yes;
> > > >   RandomAccess = no;
> > > >   # too bad, tapeinfo not supported on this device :(
> > > >   #Alert Command = "sh -c 'tapeinfo -f %c |grep TapeAlert|cat'"
> > > > }
> > > > 
> > > > -------------------------------
> > > > When i do a btape test, everything seems ok:
> > > > -------------------------------
> > > > === Write, rewind, and re-read test ===
> > > > 
> > > > I'm going to write 1000 records and an EOF
> > > > then write 1000 records and an EOF, then rewind,
> > > > and re-read the data to verify that it is correct.
> > > > 
> > > > This is an *essential* feature ...
> > > > 
> > > > btape: btape.c:795 Wrote 1000 blocks of 64412 bytes.
> > > > btape: btape.c:469 Wrote 1 EOF to "DLT-V4" (/dev/nst0)
> > > > btape: btape.c:811 Wrote 1000 blocks of 64412 bytes.
> > > > btape: btape.c:469 Wrote 1 EOF to "DLT-V4" (/dev/nst0)
> > > > btape: btape.c:820 Rewind OK.
> > > > 1000 blocks re-read correctly.
> > > > Got EOF on tape.
> > > > 1000 blocks re-read correctly.
> > > > === Test Succeeded. End Write, rewind, and re-read test ===
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > === Write, rewind, and position test ===
> > > > 
> > > > I'm going to write 1000 records and an EOF
> > > > then write 1000 records and an EOF, then rewind,
> > > > and position to a few blocks and verify that it is correct.
> > > > 
> > > > This is an *essential* feature ...
> > > > 
> > > > btape: btape.c:907 Wrote 1000 blocks of 64412 bytes.
> > > > btape: btape.c:469 Wrote 1 EOF to "DLT-V4" (/dev/nst0)
> > > > btape: btape.c:923 Wrote 1000 blocks of 64412 bytes.
> > > > btape: btape.c:469 Wrote 1 EOF to "DLT-V4" (/dev/nst0)
> > > > btape: btape.c:932 Rewind OK.
> > > > Reposition to file:block 0:4
> > > > Block 5 re-read correctly.
> > > > Reposition to file:block 0:200
> > > > Block 201 re-read correctly.
> > > > Reposition to file:block 0:999
> > > > Block 1000 re-read correctly.
> > > > Reposition to file:block 1:0
> > > > Block 1001 re-read correctly.
> > > > Reposition to file:block 1:600
> > > > Block 1601 re-read correctly.
> > > > Reposition to file:block 1:999
> > > > Block 2000 re-read correctly.
> > > > === Test Succeeded. End Write, rewind, and re-read test ===
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > === Append files test ===
> > > > 
> > > > This test is essential to Bacula.
> > > > 
> > > > I'm going to write one record  in file 0,
> > > >                    two records in file 1,
> > > >              and three records in file 2
> > > > 
> > > > btape: btape.c:438 Rewound "DLT-V4" (/dev/nst0)
> > > > btape: btape.c:1531 Wrote one record of 64412 bytes.
> > > > btape: btape.c:1533 Wrote block to device.
> > > > btape: btape.c:469 Wrote 1 EOF to "DLT-V4" (/dev/nst0)
> > > > btape: btape.c:1531 Wrote one record of 64412 bytes.
> > > > btape: btape.c:1533 Wrote block to device.
> > > > btape: btape.c:1531 Wrote one record of 64412 bytes.
> > > > btape: btape.c:1533 Wrote block to device.
> > > > btape: btape.c:469 Wrote 1 EOF to "DLT-V4" (/dev/nst0)
> > > > btape: btape.c:1531 Wrote one record of 64412 bytes.
> > > > btape: btape.c:1533 Wrote block to device.
> > > > btape: btape.c:1531 Wrote one record of 64412 bytes.
> > > > btape: btape.c:1533 Wrote block to device.
> > > > btape: btape.c:1531 Wrote one record of 64412 bytes.
> > > > btape: btape.c:1533 Wrote block to device.
> > > > btape: btape.c:469 Wrote 1 EOF to "DLT-V4" (/dev/nst0)
> > > > btape: btape.c:338 open device "DLT-V4" (/dev/nst0): OK
> > > > btape: btape.c:438 Rewound "DLT-V4" (/dev/nst0)
> > > > btape: btape.c:1061 Now moving to end of medium.
> > > > btape: btape.c:490 Moved to end of medium.
> > > > We should be in file 3. I am at file 3. This is correct!
> > > > 
> > > > Now the important part, I am going to attempt to append to the tape.
> > > > 
> > > > btape: btape.c:1531 Wrote one record of 64412 bytes.
> > > > btape: btape.c:1533 Wrote block to device.
> > > > btape: btape.c:469 Wrote 1 EOF to "DLT-V4" (/dev/nst0)
> > > > btape: btape.c:438 Rewound "DLT-V4" (/dev/nst0)
> > > > Done appending, there should be no I/O errors
> > > > 
> > > > Doing Bacula scan of blocks:
> > > > 1 block of 64448 bytes in file 1
> > > > End of File mark.
> > > > 2 blocks of 64448 bytes in file 2
> > > > End of File mark.
> > > > 3 blocks of 64448 bytes in file 3
> > > > End of File mark.
> > > > 1 block of 64448 bytes in file 4
> > > > End of File mark.
> > > > Total files=4, blocks=7, bytes = 451,136
> > > > End scanning the tape.
> > > > We should be in file 4. I am at file 4. This is correct!
> > > > 
> > > > The above Bacula scan should have output identical to what follows.
> > > > Please double check it ...
> > > > === Sample correct output ===
> > > > 1 block of 64448 bytes in file 1
> > > > End of File mark.
> > > > 2 blocks of 64448 bytes in file 2
> > > > End of File mark.
> > > > 3 blocks of 64448 bytes in file 3
> > > > End of File mark.
> > > > 1 block of 64448 bytes in file 4
> > > > End of File mark.
> > > > Total files=4, blocks=7, bytes = 451,136
> > > > === End sample correct output ===
> > > > 
> > > > If the above scan output is not identical to the
> > > > sample output, you MUST correct the problem
> > > > or Bacula will not be able to write multiple Jobs to 
> > > > the tape.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > === Write, backup, and re-read test ===
> > > > 
> > > > I'm going to write three records and an EOF
> > > > then backup over the EOF and re-read the last record.
> > > > Bacula does this after writing the last block on the
> > > > tape to verify that the block was written correctly.
> > > > 
> > > > This is not an *essential* feature ...
> > > > 
> > > > btape: btape.c:438 Rewound "DLT-V4" (/dev/nst0)
> > > > btape: btape.c:674 Wrote first record of 64412 bytes.
> > > > btape: btape.c:685 Wrote second record of 64412 bytes.
> > > > btape: btape.c:696 Wrote third record of 64412 bytes.
> > > > btape: btape.c:469 Wrote 1 EOF to "DLT-V4" (/dev/nst0)
> > > > btape: btape.c:712 Backspaced over EOF OK.
> > > > btape: btape.c:717 Backspace record OK.
> > > > btape: btape.c:735 
> > > > Block re-read correct. Test succeeded!
> > > > === End Write, backup, and re-read test ===
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > === Forward space files test ===
> > > > 
> > > > This test is essential to Bacula.
> > > > 
> > > > I'm going to write five files then test forward spacing
> > > > 
> > > > btape: btape.c:438 Rewound "DLT-V4" (/dev/nst0)
> > > > btape: btape.c:1531 Wrote one record of 64412 bytes.
> > > > btape: btape.c:1533 Wrote block to device.
> > > > btape: btape.c:469 Wrote 1 EOF to "DLT-V4" (/dev/nst0)
> > > > btape: btape.c:1531 Wrote one record of 64412 bytes.
> > > > btape: btape.c:1533 Wrote block to device.
> > > > btape: btape.c:1531 Wrote one record of 64412 bytes.
> > > > btape: btape.c:1533 Wrote block to device.
> > > > btape: btape.c:469 Wrote 1 EOF to "DLT-V4" (/dev/nst0)
> > > > btape: btape.c:1531 Wrote one record of 64412 bytes.
> > > > btape: btape.c:1533 Wrote block to device.
> > > > btape: btape.c:1531 Wrote one record of 64412 bytes.
> > > > btape: btape.c:1533 Wrote block to device.
> > > > btape: btape.c:1531 Wrote one record of 64412 bytes.
> > > > btape: btape.c:1533 Wrote block to device.
> > > > btape: btape.c:469 Wrote 1 EOF to "DLT-V4" (/dev/nst0)
> > > > btape: btape.c:1531 Wrote one record of 64412 bytes.
> > > > btape: btape.c:1533 Wrote block to device.
> > > > btape: btape.c:1531 Wrote one record of 64412 bytes.
> > > > btape: btape.c:1533 Wrote block to device.
> > > > btape: btape.c:469 Wrote 1 EOF to "DLT-V4" (/dev/nst0)
> > > > btape: btape.c:1531 Wrote one record of 64412 bytes.
> > > > btape: btape.c:1533 Wrote block to device.
> > > > btape: btape.c:469 Wrote 1 EOF to "DLT-V4" (/dev/nst0)
> > > > btape: btape.c:438 Rewound "DLT-V4" (/dev/nst0)
> > > > btape: btape.c:1276 Now forward spacing 1 file.
> > > > We should be in file 1. I am at file 1. This is correct!
> > > > btape: btape.c:1288 Now forward spacing 2 files.
> > > > We should be in file 3. I am at file 3. This is correct!
> > > > btape: btape.c:438 Rewound "DLT-V4" (/dev/nst0)
> > > > btape: btape.c:1301 Now forward spacing 4 files.
> > > > We should be in file 4. I am at file 4. This is correct!
> > > > 
> > > > btape: btape.c:1319 Now forward spacing 1 more file.
> > > > We should be in file 5. I am at file 5. This is correct!
> > > > 
> > > > === End Forward space files test ===
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > -------------------------------
> > > > However the fill test gives me the following error:
> > > > -------------------------------
> > > > 01-Apr 10:14 btape: btape Error: block.c:538 Write error at 216:694 on
> > > > device "DLT-V4" (/dev/nst0). ERR=Input/output error.
> > > > 01-Apr 10:14 btape: btape Error: Error writing final EOF to tape. This
> > > > Volume may not be readable.
> > > > dev.c:1542 ioctl MTWEOF error on "DLT-V4" (/dev/nst0). 
ERR=Input/output
> > > > error.
> > > > btape: btape.c:2301 Last block at: 216:693 this_dev_block_num=694
> > > > btape: btape.c:2335 End of tape 216:694. 
VolumeCapacity=148,615,818,480.
> > > > Write rate = 9076.9 KB/s
> > > > Done writing ...
> > > > Wrote state file last_block_num1=693 last_block_num2=0
> > > > 
> > > > -------------------------------
> > > > With the above btape error, a kernel error is also presented:
> > > > -------------------------------
> > > > Apr  1 10:39:42 debian kernel: ata2.00: qc timeout (cmd 0xa0)
> > > > Apr  1 10:39:42 debian kernel: ata2.00: exception Emask 0x0 SAct 0x0
> > > > SErr 0x0 action 0x2 frozen
> > > > Apr  1 10:39:42 debian kernel: ata2.00: (BMDMA stat 0x20)
> > > > Apr  1 10:39:42 debian kernel: ata2.00: tag 0 cmd 0xa0 Emask 0x5 stat
> > > > 0x51 err 0x51 (timeout)
> > > > Apr  1 10:39:49 debian kernel: ata2: port is slow to respond, please 
be
> > > > patient
> > > > Apr  1 10:40:12 debian kernel: ata2: port failed to respond (30 secs)
> > > > Apr  1 10:40:12 debian kernel: ata2: soft resetting port
> > > > Apr  1 10:40:13 debian kernel: ata2: SATA link up 1.5 Gbps (SStatus 
113
> > > > SControl 300)
> > > > Apr  1 10:40:13 debian kernel: ata2.00: configured for UDMA/133
> > > > Apr  1 10:40:13 debian kernel: ata2: EH complete
> > > > Apr  1 10:40:13 debian kernel: st0: Current [descriptor]: sense key:
> > > > Medium Error
> > > > Apr  1 10:40:13 debian kernel:     Additional sense: Address mark not
> > > > found for data field
> > > > Apr  1 10:40:13 debian kernel: Descriptor sense data with sense
> > > > descriptors (in hex):
> > > > Apr  1 10:40:13 debian kernel:         72 03 13 00 00 00 00 0e 09 0e 
00
> > > > 51 00 03 00 00 
> > > > Apr  1 10:40:13 debian kernel:         00 00 00 00 a0 51 
> > > > Apr  1 10:40:25 debian kernel: st0: Current: sense key: Unit Attention
> > > > Apr  1 10:40:25 debian kernel:     Additional sense: Scsi bus reset
> > > > occurred
> > > > Apr  1 10:41:08 debian kernel: ata2.00: qc timeout (cmd 0xa0)
> > > > Apr  1 10:41:08 debian kernel: ata2.00: exception Emask 0x0 SAct 0x0
> > > > SErr 0x0 action 0x2 frozen
> > > > Apr  1 10:41:08 debian kernel: ata2.00: (BMDMA stat 0x20)
> > > > Apr  1 10:41:08 debian kernel: ata2.00: tag 0 cmd 0xa0 Emask 0x5 stat
> > > > 0x51 err 0x51 (timeout)
> > > > Apr  1 10:41:15 debian kernel: ata2: port is slow to respond, please 
be
> > > > patient
> > > > Apr  1 10:41:39 debian kernel: ata2: port failed to respond (30 secs)
> > > > Apr  1 10:41:39 debian kernel: ata2: soft resetting port
> > > > Apr  1 10:41:39 debian kernel: ata2: SATA link up 1.5 Gbps (SStatus 
113
> > > > SControl 300)
> > > > Apr  1 10:41:39 debian kernel: ata2.00: configured for UDMA/133
> > > > Apr  1 10:41:39 debian kernel: ata2: EH complete
> > > > Apr  1 10:41:39 debian kernel: st0: Current [descriptor]: sense key:
> > > > Medium Error
> > > > Apr  1 10:41:39 debian kernel:     Additional sense: Address mark not
> > > > found for data field
> > > > Apr  1 10:41:39 debian kernel: Descriptor sense data with sense
> > > > descriptors (in hex):
> > > > Apr  1 10:41:39 debian kernel:         72 03 13 00 00 00 00 0e 09 0e 
00
> > > > 51 00 03 00 00 
> > > > Apr  1 10:41:39 debian kernel:         00 00 00 00 a0 51 
> > > > 
> > > > I tried appending  "irqpoll acpi=noirq" to see wether it is a kernel
> > > > problem, but that didn't make any difference. As writing seems to 
work,
> > > > I guess it is not a kernel problem.
> > > > 
> > > > -- 
> > > > Regards,
> > > > 
> > > > Sebastiaan
> > > > 
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