Kern Sibbald wrote:
> On Monday 26 March 2007 05:16, Eric Bambach wrote:
>   
>> Hello again list.
>>
>> Original thread is: [Bacula-users] Unable to Truncate Error Solved!
>>
>> I have some additional information about my problem.
>>
>> I am still getting error truncating files. It has to be some weird 
>> incompatibility with windows 2000 server and Bacula.
>>
>> -The file permissions say everyone full control.
>> -SysInternals Process explorer at the time of the error show that only 
>> bacula-sd.exe has an open handle for Vol0071 (Or any of the volumes for 
>> that matter).
>> -SysInternals Filemon shows no access besides bacula-sd.exe to that 
>> volume at the time of the error.
>> -I tried both the packged mingw.dll and a different version from the 
>> MinGW website.
>> -I have no antivirus software installed.
>> -Winver shows Windows 2000 Version 5.0 (Build 2195: Service Pack 4)
>> -I have cygwin installed. Maybe a .dll conflict there?
>> -Using 2x"Initio inic1620 S-ATA Controller" to power a dynamic disk 
>> Raid-5 array of 4x"WDC WD3200JD-00KLB0 SCSI Disk Device"
>> -I DO have Legato Networker installed which backs up those files. 
>> (Off-site). But legato did not have filehandles for Vol0071 (or any 
>> other in the pool) open at the time.
>>
>> Any ideas anyone? 
>>     
>
> If we assume that this is a Windows bug rather than a Bacula bug, I have the 
> following comments:
> - I've seen this kind of thing *many* times on Win32 machines. Most recently 
> was two days ago when I was cleaning up an older laptop that I was "donating" 
> to a 3rd world country.  I wanted to blow away all my files.  I did so by 
> creating a new account, loging out of my account, then proceeding to delete 
> my files (after deleting my account).  When I got to one particular part of 
> the system (my profile if I remember right), it would not delete the 
> directory complaining that I could not delete NTLDR.dat (or some file such as 
> that).  The error message was total nonsense.  In the end I succeeded in 
> deleting my file *only* after rebooting and never logging in on my account.
>
> What that tells me is that there are conditions in which files are opened, 
> and 
> even if the user goes away, the OS still thinks the file is open (or at least 
> cannot be deleted).
>
> - You might try rebooting your machine, and in doing so make sure that no 
> other software runs (by turning it off before rebooting) that could possibly 
> open or touch the file that Bacula wants to truncate.  Then see if Bacula can 
> do its thing.
>
> - Ensure that you really have installed Bacula as system administrator of the 
> local machine (not as a domain administrator or whatever the term is).  The 
> manual explains this for the FD.
>
> Now, if we assume that this is a Bacula bug (i.e. something is incorrect in 
> the libraries), it seems to me that this is going to take a bit of work to 
> resolve.  The first step would be either manually in the source code or with 
> a debugger, trace exactly what code Bacula is executing when it does the 
> truncate() (actually, I think it does an ftruncate(), which as far as I can 
> tell is defined as chsize().
>
> Once you find where it is getting the error, we can examine the system call 
> and probably figure out how to fix it.  I do note that there is a comment in 
> the gcc code that indicates that ftruncate() does not work ...
>
>
>
>   
>> This will put a complete halt to using bacula in our  
>> environment. I am not opposed to debugging/tracing the problem for the 
>> developers because bacula seems like such an awesome product but I need 
>> some pointers as I am out of ideas for the moment.
>>
>> Perhaps the source needs an #IFDEF WIN32 chsize(...) #ELSE truncate(...) 
>> #ENDIF?
>>
>> Should we take this to the MinGW development list?
>>
>> ---------------------Error log-------------------------------
>>
>> 25-Mar 21:59 moe-dir: No prior Full backup Job record found.
>> 25-Mar 21:59 moe-dir: No prior or suitable Full backup found in catalog. 
>>     
> Doing FULL backup.
>   
>> 25-Mar 21:59 moe-dir: Start Backup JobId 46, Job=Junior.2007-03-25_21.59.31
>> 25-Mar 21:59 moe-dir: Recycled current volume "Vol0071"
>> 25-Mar 21:59 moe-sd: Junior.2007-03-25_21.59.31 Fatal 
>>     
> error: ../../stored/label.c:448 Truncate error on device "FileStorage" (E:
> \Bacula-Storage): ERR=../../stored/dev.c:1943 Unable to truncate 
> device "FileStorage" (E:\Bacula-Storage). ERR=Invalid argument
>   
>> 25-Mar 21:59 moe-sd: Marking Volume "Vol0071" in Error in Catalog.
>> 25-Mar 21:59 moe-sd: Junior.2007-03-25_21.59.31 Fatal error: Job 46 
>>     
> canceled.
>   
>> 25-Mar 20:59 junior-fd: Junior.2007-03-25_21.59.31 Fatal error: job.c:1665 
>>     
> Bad response to Append Data command. Wanted 3000 OK data
>   
>> , got 3903 Error append data
>>
>> 25-Mar 21:59 moe-dir: Junior.2007-03-25_21.59.31 Error: Bacula 2.0.3 
>>     
> (06Mar07): 25-Mar-2007 21:59:40
>   
>>   JobId:                  46
>>   Job:                    Junior.2007-03-25_21.59.31
>>   Backup Level:           Full (upgraded from Incremental)
>>   Client:                 "junior-fd" i386-pc-linux-gnu,debian,3.1
>>   FileSet:                "Full Linux Root" 2007-03-22 22:56:17
>>   Pool:                   "DiskPool" (From Job resource)
>>   Storage:                "File" (From Job resource)
>>   Scheduled time:         25-Mar-2007 21:59:29
>>   Start time:             25-Mar-2007 21:59:39
>>   End time:               25-Mar-2007 21:59:40
>>   Elapsed time:           1 sec
>>   Priority:               10
>>   FD Files Written:       0
>>   SD Files Written:       0
>>   FD Bytes Written:       0 (0 B)
>>   SD Bytes Written:       0 (0 B)
>>   Rate:                   0.0 KB/s
>>   Software Compression:   None
>>   VSS:                    no
>>   Encryption:             no
>>   Volume name(s):         
>>   Volume Session Id:      22
>>   Volume Session Time:    1174625675
>>   Last Volume Bytes:      1 (1 B)
>>   Non-fatal FD errors:    0
>>   SD Errors:              0
>>   FD termination status:  Error
>>   SD termination status:  Error
>>   Termination:            *** Backup Error ***
>> ---------------------Error log-------------------------------
>>
>>
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Well I've done some testing. No matter what I did I was not able to 
trigger this using files < 2GB. I set the maximum volume size at 2GB so 
the files were all about 1.9ish GB. I let it run for many days backing 
up over 200GB of data and it did not trigger the truncate problem. I 
purged large jobs which marked dozens of files to be recycled and it had 
no problem re-using those files. I would guess it created 160 files and 
recycled at least 100 of them - some more than once-

I then used the label command to create 2 test volumes just over 2gb. I 
was able to get the error easily in a day. It did recycle them a few 
times, but eventually it tripped up. I would guess I recycled these two 
volumes only 5-6 times before it couldnt truncate them.

This is bizarre..... any more ideas? Im hoping I have it pegged this 
time and its not another false alarm.

In light of this do you still want the debugging output from those 
specially compiled daemons?

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