On Wednesday 21 March 2007 14:47, Hans Manz wrote:
> Hello!
> 
> Kern Sibbald schrieb:
> 
> > The problem is that with your scheme, those operations will continue to 
fail 
> > on disk volumes after the volume has been recycled.
> 
> [...]
> 
> > Yes, your understanding of how tapes work is incorrect.
> > 
> >> When I write 20MB on a 4GB tape, the 
> >> size of the tape will remain 4GB. 
> > 
> > No, the tape is now 20MB has a *clearly* defined end of data mark, and 
some 
> > garbage after the end of the data mark.
> 
> > If you re-write 20MB on a 4GB disk file, the disk file is still 4GB and 
there 
> > is no end of data mark at 20MB as is the case on a tape.
> 
> Ah, I think now I understand your point. But this is not a k.o. argument
> since you could just explicitely write an end of data mark to the file.
> This would prevent the failing of operations you mentioned above, if I
> understand you properly now.

I'm sorry, but the only end of data mark for a file is the end of file (i.e. 
truncate it).

> 
> > I'm not interested in turning Bacula into an operating system.
> 
> Absolutely, but maybe you are interested in creating software that is
> aware of outbound limitations and in creating software that moves away
> discrepancies from users -- if possible; just like all professional
> software should do.
> 
> >> Well, the world out there will not miss very much, wether bacula
> >> truncates anything or not. 
> > 
> >> But what I am really fed up with are arrogant 
> >> open source developers who think their users were too stupid.
> > 
> > You seem to be attributing a difference of opinion we have as being 
arrogance 
> > on my part then projecting that on "open source developers" and finally 
> > drawing a conclusion about what those open source developers think about 
> > their users.
> 
> No, I like discussions and criticism. Differences of opinions are
> perfectly fine. Your intonation of your first replies were arrogant,
> e.g. answering to ideas of users (two cents) with words like "never" is
> not a good idea. You needed several mails to come up with substantial
> statements. Your behaviour is just typical for many -- not all -- OSS
> developers. This is not a generalisation of your posts, it's a general
> obversation that is validated by your posts.
> 
> > You are entitled to your opinion, but your logic is as faulty, and your 
> > opinion and conclusions are certainly not mine.
> 
> Dissence accepted, except of faulty logic.
> 
> I would like to stop this flame war, since the objective (truncation) is
> not worth of it. I hope both of us learned some lessons?
> 
> /hm
> 
> p.s.: yes, i am also arrogant. :-)
> 

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