>>>>> On Tue, 20 Feb 2007 15:55:57 -0500, Naufal Zamir said:
> 
> Thanks for your reply, I just modified the conf file, and will start the
> backup tommorow. I have one more question though. I initially had seperate
> daily pools e.g. Daily-tues to Daily-Fri. All the three system daily backups
> went to one pool each day. In the configuration you just told, if I am
> having one job for each system then I cannot account for all the different
> daily pools because one job can only take one Incremental pool in its
> definition. However for the testing purpose I have just created one daily
> pool for each system i.e. tracfire-daily, tracweb-daily and tracsun-daily,
> and see if I can manage the backup with all 5 dailies of one week going to
> one tape. But if I have to stick with my previous scheme, how will I cater
> for the problem?

Yes, you can do that.  Instead of putting Incremental Backup Pool etc in the
Job definition, you can put IncrementalPool etc in the Schedule Job-overrides.

The only problem with these Schedule overrides is that they do not apply to
jobs run using the bconsole run command (you have to use the mod option to set
the pool).

__Martin


> 
> 
> thanks and Regards
> 
> On 2/20/07, Martin Simmons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > >>>>> On Tue, 20 Feb 2007 14:16:50 -0500, Naufal Zamir said:
> > >
> > > Martin,
> > >
> > > thanks for your reply. I am still not sure about the exact problem.
> > Please
> > > correect me if I am wrong on following:
> > >
> > >   As the example states, it looks like that there has to be one schedule
> > (
> > > as compared to 3 seperate I have) which will spepcify the level of the
> > > backup i.e. full, differential and incremental and the timings.  So I
> > should
> > > have one schedule which will do all the scheduling rather than having
> > three.
> >
> > Correct.
> >
> >
> > > For the job definitions, from your comments and the example my
> > understanding
> > > is that I will have only three jobs for my three systems instead of
> > having
> > > seperate full, differential and incremental jobs with different schedule
> > for
> > > each system. Each job resource will have the backup pools defined with
> > that
> > > single schedule directive name I had defined in schedule section.
> >
> > Correct.  When this is working, you will need a fourth job for the catalog
> > backup, which is usually run after all the other jobs.
> >
> >
> > > As a result the system will take a full backup on the full backup pool,
> > and
> > > the differential backup will reference the same full backup for the
> > > differntial backup instead of reverting to its own full backup and
> > similalry
> > > the daily backup will reference the same full backup instead of
> > reverting to
> > > its own full backup.
> >
> > Correct (though the daily incremental backup will also reference the
> > differential backup).
> >
> > __Martin
> >
> > >
> > > thank you so much for all your help.
> > >
> > > Regards
> > >
> > > >From your comments my understanding is that
> > >
> > > On 2/20/07, Martin Simmons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >>>>> On Mon, 19 Feb 2007 14:46:07 -0500, Naufal Zamir said:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi Martin,
> > > > >
> > > > > thanks for your reply. i really appreciate it. I don;t think the job
> > > > > retentions should be a problem, however I did not get the level
> > options.
> > > > I
> > > > > tried using the same name for the jobs, but check conf gave me an
> > error
> > > > > saying that no two jobs can have the same name, though the backup
> > level
> > > > was
> > > > > different.I am however attaching the conf file for your review. I'll
> > be
> > > > > gratefull if you can pin point the mistake, cos this seems to be the
> > > > last
> > > > > hurdle in my implementation!
> > > >
> > > > Please always CC the list in replies.
> > > >
> > > > Sorry, I wasn't clear about the job definitions.  You need 1 job
> > > > definition
> > > > for each set of files and client that you want to back up, e.g. named
> > > > something like "Tracfire", "Tracweb" and "Tracsun".  The job
> > definition
> > > > can
> > > > use the Full Backup Pool, Incremental Backup Pool and Differential
> > Backup
> > > > Pool
> > > > options to specify the pools for each level.
> > > >
> > > > See http://www.bacula.org/rel-manual/Automated_Disk_Backup.html for an
> > > > example.
> > > >
> > > > __Martin
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On 2/19/07, Martin Simmons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >>>>> On Mon, 19 Feb 2007 11:02:35 -0500, Naufal Zamir said:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I am running bacula 1.38.5.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I want to know if the incremental and differential backups can
> > tale
> > > > a
> > > > > > fuill
> > > > > > > backup from a different pool as their reference point.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Yes.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Currently, I am using a full backup pool for the full backups,
> > and
> > > > since
> > > > > > it
> > > > > > > takes pretty long for all the system's full backup I do it on
> > the
> > > > > > weekend.
> > > > > > > After the weekend when bacula is supposed to do an incremental
> > or a
> > > > > > > differential, it does not find any backup for that particular
> > job
> > > > and
> > > > > > > reverts to full backup. what I want to do is that differential
> > and
> > > > > > > incremental should not revert to full backup and take the full
> > > > backup
> > > > > > from
> > > > > > > other pool as their reference. Otherwise since it take 3 days
> > for
> > > > one
> > > > > > full
> > > > > > > backup of all three systems, whole cycle disrupts.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > There are two common mistakes:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 1) How did you define your job?  To make differential/incremental
> > > > work,
> > > > > > you
> > > > > >    must use the level option when running the job with the same
> > name
> > > > as
> > > > > > the
> > > > > >    full job.  I.e. one job with a schedule that contains more than
> > one
> > > > run
> > > > > >    option.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 2) What are the retention times for the job?  If they are too
> > short,
> > > > then
> > > > > >    Bacula might prune the job records for the full run before it
> > runs
> > > > the
> > > > > >    differential/incremental.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > __Martin
> > > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >

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