On Wednesday 31 January 2007 11:33, Andrew Paterson wrote: > Hi, > I know I am a little late with this comment and it is probably not > welcome... But I feel it needs stating.... <...RANT...> > I am not happy with the client-specific gui (bat). > It would surely be better to have a server based gui run from a web-browser > - what I had hoped bacula-web would become. I don't much look forward to > only being able to run the bat gui on linux boxes & other UNIX clients to > which it has been ported. OK, you will no doubt port it to windows also - > but consider that I can run bacula-web from any web enabled device even my > mobile phone! Surely bacula-web should be further developed to provide the > kind of functionality for a bacula-server that swat does for samba & the > cups web-interface does for cups etc..... <...END of RANT...>
<response> As I clearly stated in a number of emails, I see a big need for both a platform GUI that runs on all platforms supported by Bacula and a web interface. My own personal programming preferences are for a platform GUI, and after having tried Gnome (I really wanted GTK++ but didn't understand the difference at the time), and wx-console (Nicolas). Neither of these really worked out well. I'm now working on Qt for all the reasons I stated in those previous emails, and find it very nice. I would be pleased to see a nice web interface, and to a good extent, Eric is doing that with bweb because from what I understand, brestore now works with bweb to restore files. </response> > > In the meantime - back to my development network reliably secured with > bacula - Thanks to Kern et al. > > Andrew R Paterson > DS Ltd. > www.ds.co.uk > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kern > Sibbald > Sent: 30 January 2007 7:06PM > To: bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net > Cc: bacula-devel > Subject: Re: [Bacula-users] Bacula Admin Tool (bat) > > On Tuesday 30 January 2007 17:48, Chris Hoogendyk wrote: > > Ryan Novosielski wrote: > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > > > Not to be chomping at the bit here, but I guess questions that I have > > > are A) How hard is it likely to be to get this thing built for Windows? > > > I don't expect you to have an answer for that as I suppose Robert does > > > most of the Windows work, but I'd be curious to know. B) If anyone is > > > familiar with this, on Solaris, is there a set of files that one can > > > add to a system that is relatively lightweight to support something > > > like this? Perhaps you have other KDE apps and know how this works. In > > > my experience, most distros want the qt libs package, but then that > > > package wants about 30 others. > > > > > > Thanks for any insights from the peanut gallery. I'd love to start > > > using this, but would pass for the time being if it will require > > > extensive dependency building. > > > > I'll just reply to the Solaris part. > > > > I typically grab a good deal of this sort of stuff from sunfreeware. I > > try not to get things I don't need, but when you have a chain of > > dependencies, you don't have much choice -- either you want that > > capability or you scrap the whole thing. > > > > I have a directory /usr/local/pkg and a directory /usr/local/src, and I > > keep everything I have installed in one or the other of those. Some > > things you need source, some things it's unnecessary overhead and > > trouble. > > > > For me, Solaris is for servers. My desktop is Mac OS X. I don't use any > > graphical interface on my servers. I typically have a dozen or more > > terminal windows open with ssh sessions. > > > > If I were going to use a gui for something like bacula, I would want it > > at my desktop, not on the server. So, while my backup servers and > > everything would be on Solaris, > > > > I would want a client/server arrangement > > where I could do the administration from a gui on my Mac. Don't know if > > that fits with the current plan, but it seems most logical to me -- > > architecturally more robust and not caught up in the exporting of > > graphical interface through something like X11. From my perspective, > > that's not what a server ought to be spending its time doing. I would > > want the bacula install to be modular enough that I wouldn't have to > > install the graphical stuff on my server. > > What is written above is not totally clear to me. The bat is a GUI > application that will run on a large variety of machines Linux, Windows, > Solaris, FreeBSD, Mac OS X and others. The communications to the Director > does not use X11 but simple TCP/IP. There is no requirement to have the > GUI installed on the server. > > > --------------- > > > > Chris Hoogendyk > > > > - > > O__ ---- Systems Administrator > > c/ /'_ --- Biology & Geology Departments > > (*) \(*) -- 140 Morrill Science Center > > ~~~~~~~~~~ - University of Massachusetts, Amherst > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > --------------- > > > > Erdös 4 > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Take Surveys. Earn Cash. 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