Kern,
I entirely agree with you - I had noticed this myself. But I don't thinks it's 
SF's fault, at least not on purpose.
I use a lot of software hosted on SF, and browse the site often. When I go to 
the PDFCreator project page, I am flooded with ads of commercial software which 
does the exact same thing as PDFCreator does - and are probably not as robust 
and mature. Same thing at the FreeMind project page, and several other pages. 
SF just tags projects ('backup', 'PDF', 'mind mapper'), and displays ads of 
commercial software in the same category. This is just their ad system doing 
its job.
Zmanda is a commercial offering, Amanda is the original project. Judging from 
how long I've been hearing about Amanda (I first heard of it in '97 our '98, I 
think), I **suppose** the project is run by serious and civil individuals who 
would never approve of such behaviour. Successful open source projects (and 
businesses) are usually run by nice people. It's the sales and marketing people 
that do this kind of dirty stuff. They're weighing in the name Amanda made for 
itself over the years, and care little about facts. Before deploying my 
Linux-based backup solution, I did **A LOT** of research and Bacula won, hands 
down. But I've been doing IT for 11 years now and have had people tell me SQL 
Server is more scalable than Oracle -- facts don't really matter.
I believe SF will at most answer politely, but highly doubt they're going to do 
something about it if it hurts (and it DOES hurt) their bottom line. Regards,

Georger

----- Mensagem original ----
De: Kern Sibbald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Para: bacula-users <bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net>
Cc: bacula-devel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Enviadas: Segunda-feira, 11 de Dezembro de 2006 10:38:58
Assunto: [Bacula-users] Source Forge abusive commercial ads

Hello,

For your information, I have just submitted the following service request to 
Source Forge.  While one must tolerate a certain amount of abuse in this 
world, in this particular case (see below), I find Source Forge's commercial 
actions annoying ...

===============
Every time I access the Bacula Source Forge page, there are ads for Zmanda, 
which I don't much like, but OK, you have to earn your living too.  However, 
these ads are what I call abusive in the sense that they are providing what I 
consider to be unfounded and possibly false information. For example, the 
most recent add claims that Amanda or Zmanda is the most popular Open Source 
backup software. Where is the proof of this?  If I look at the project 
statistics and your rating of the Amanda vs Bacula projects are as follows:

Bacula 
  rank = 664   Downloads = 313,407
 
Amanda
  rank = 1,138 Downloads = 182,253

If Amanda/Zmanda wish to make such doubtful and probably false claims on their 
web site, that is one thing, but for you to post this blatantly on my project 
page really does me a disservice and is not helping promote true Open Source 
software, but rather promoting a commercial organization.

Please remove the Zmanda false adds from my project page.

I have copied this request to the Bacula email lists and encourage the Bacula 
users to express their opinions on this subject in a responsible way.
==========

Best regards,

Kern




        



        
                
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