On Thursday 14 September 2006 19:41, Jo Rhett wrote: > On Thu, Sep 14, 2006 at 10:20:21AM +0200, Kern Sibbald wrote: > > On Thursday 14 September 2006 03:45, Jo Rhett wrote: > > > > > So right now the "Volume Use" start time is set by the start time of > > > > > the first job stored on it. > > > > > > On Wed, Sep 13, 2006 at 10:04:47PM +0200, Kern Sibbald wrote: > > > > I haven't looked at the code, but I believe it is based on the > > FirstWritten > > > > which is the time (if I am not mistaken) when the Volume first had data > > > > written to it (i.e. just labeling it doesn't count). > > > ... > > > > No, I don't believe that is correct. The FirstWritten should be the time > > the > > > > first non-label byte is written to the Volume. The whole process is > > rather > > > > complicated though. > > > > > > Nope. Here's the volume in question that started it all > > > llist volumes output: > > > > > > MediaId: 4 > > > VolumeName: clients-0004 > > > Slot: 0 > > > PoolId: 5 > > > MediaType: File_clients > > > FirstWritten: 2006-09-10 11:05:01 > > > LastWritten: 2006-09-10 23:26:29 > > > LabelDate: 2006-09-10 11:05:01 > > > > > > FirstWritten says 11:05, but the volume wasn't Recycled until 11 hours > > > later, and first written another half hour later (I walked away and forgot > > > to mount the device...) > > > > > > 10-Sep 11:05 backup0-dir: Start Backup JobId > > > 258,Job=hostname.client.com.2006-09-10_11.05.00 > > > 10-Sep 11:05 backup0-dir: Max configured use duration exceeded. > > > Marking Volume "clients-0003" as Used. > > > 10-Sep 11:05 backup0-dir: Pruning oldest volume "clients-0004" > > > 10-Sep 11:05 backup0-dir: Pruning oldest volume "clients-0004" > > > 10-Sep 11:05 backup0-dir: Pruning oldest volume "clients-0004" > > > 10-Sep 11:05 backup0-sd: Job hostname.client.com.2006-09-10_11.05.00 > > > waiting. Cannot find any appendable volumes. > > > Please use the "label" command to create a new Volume for: > > > Storage: "Dev_clients" (/bacula/clients) > > > Media type: File_clients > > > Pool: clients_Pool > > > 10-Sep 12:05 backup0-dir: Pruning oldest volume "clients-0004" > > > 10-Sep 12:05 backup0-sd: Job hostname.client.com.2006-09-10_11.05.00 > > > waiting. Cannot find any appendable volumes. > > > Please use the "label" command to create a new Volume for: > > > Storage: "Dev_clients" (/bacula/clients) > > > Media type: File_clients > > > Pool: clients_Pool > > > 10-Sep 14:05 backup0-dir: Pruning oldest volume "clients-0004" > > > 10-Sep 14:05 backup0-sd: Job hostname.client.com.2006-09-10_11.05.00 > > > waiting. Cannot find any appendable volumes. > > > Please use the "label" command to create a new Volume for: > > > Storage: "Dev_clients" (/bacula/clients) > > > Media type: File_clients > > > Pool: clients_Pool > > > 10-Sep 18:05 backup0-dir: Pruning oldest volume "clients-0004" > > > 10-Sep 18:05 backup0-sd: Job hostname.client.com.2006-09-10_11.05.00 > > > waiting. Cannot find any appendable volumes. > > > Please use the "label" command to create a new Volume for: > > > Storage: "Dev_clients" (/bacula/clients) > > > Media type: File_clients > > > Pool: clients_Pool > > > 10-Sep 22:08 backup0-dir: Recycled volume "clients-0004" > > > 10-Sep 22:08 backup0-sd: Recycled volume "clients-0004" on device > > > "Dev_clients" (/bacula/clients), all previous data lost. > > > 10-Sep 23:09 backup0-dir: Bacula 1.38.5 (18Jan06): 10-Sep-2006 23:09:58 > > > JobId: 258 > > > Job: hostname.client.com.2006-09-10_11.05.00 > > > Backup Level: Incremental, since=2006-09-09 11:05:01 > > > Client: "hostname.client.com-fd" i386-portbld- > > > freebsd6.1,freebsd,6.1-STABLE > > > FileSet: "hostname.client.com-fileset" 2006-07-09 > > > 09:03:40 > > > Pool: "clients_Pool" > > > Storage: "Disk_clients" > > > Scheduled time: 10-Sep-2006 11:05:00 > > > Start time: 10-Sep-2006 11:05:01 > > > End time: 10-Sep-2006 23:09:58 > > > Priority: 10 > > > FD Files Written: 699,861 > > > SD Files Written: 699,861 > > > ...etc > > > > > > Sorry, I don't have time to investigate the algorithm, but I did have time > > > to show the evidence as to what is happening here... > > > > I'm sorry, but this is not at all clear. I see what you have listed, but > > without knowing what you have set for retention periods (if it is Volume > > retention, what does the volume really have?, ...) and what kinds of > > "forcing" of Bacula you may be using (Prune oldest volume, ...), I cannot see > > any evidence of a problem. > > > > Once Bacula asks for operator intervention, it is going to block until you > > specifically do a mount, unless you have polling turned on. It does not set a > > timer and then magically wake up at just the moment that the next available > > volume could be recycled. As I mentioned before this is very complicated. > > I have no problems with retention periods, recycling or mounting -- these > are all working perfectly. Did you lose track of the topic? > (not meaning to be rude, just confused)
No, I have not lost track at all. The start time for Volume prunning is the FirstWritten, that is clear, and you were complaining about Volume pruning and recycling. > > The issue is that the "FirstWritten" time on the volume is the start time > of the job, not the actual time the volume was opened for writing. FirstWritten is not when the volume was opened for writing, it should be when the volume was first written. > > Job starts at 11:05 -- blocked waiting for a volume > Volume recycled at 22:08 > First job written to it at 23:09 > > Therefore, FirstWritten should be 23:09, not 11:05. That is not what you showed above (or at least it was not clear to me). I saw a listing of the volume that I had to assume was before the job was run by the wording of your sentence explaining the listing. If you are saying that FirstWritten is not updated when a volume is recycled, that is possible, and if that is the case, it is probably a bug (this depends on what FirstWritten means -- i.e. first time ever written or first time written after a recycle), but I have never heard the problem phrased in that manner, nor seen any examples (i.e. proof) of it. Is this the real problem? ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 _______________________________________________ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
