By the way, I have given up on FSF. I didn't get back any feedback from them,
and the email that I sent to their office was sent back saying that I have my
SPF record messed up.
These guys obviously have an aversion to answering email or maintaining a
reasonable mail configuration. I wonder what they do to promote FSF?
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On Tuesday 13 June 2006 17:13, Josh Fisher wrote:
> Kern Sibbald wrote:
> > On Monday 12 June 2006 23:54, Francisco Reyes wrote:
> >> Kern Sibbald writes:
> >>> simple to do. To open a bank account, I need only a set of articles of
> >>> association, which define the objective of the association and the
> >>> persons who are the directors of the association. These articles of
> >>> association can also include any special considerations, such as
> >>> restrictions, who can be members, ... Certain documents for the bank
> >>> account will be in French since that is the official language here.
> >>> However, the articles of association will be written in English.
> >>
> >> What would be required for those to join?
> >
> > I believe that everyone should be equal, something terribly lacking in
> > this world at the moment. However, the articles of association are
> > somewhat like the articles of incorporation. They must spell out who
> > governs the association and how those persons get into their possitions.
> > This most likely means that members of this association must be elected
> > by either a board or by a members meeting. If I am not mistaken, Debian
> > and Apache have clauses similar to this.
>
> There is great deal of info available at The Center for Association
> Leadership (http://www.asaecenter.org/). This is, by the way, an
> international association in itself.
>
> Have you contacted FSF Europe (http://www.fsfeurope.org/)? They might
> have some useful info or be able to point you in the right direction.
>
> >>> I intend to create these articles of association for Bacula, which is
> >>> the reason I am writing this email. I can, of course, do it myself,
> >>> but I would much rather have the participation and input of the Bacula
> >>> users.
> >>
> >> Hm... no examples that coul be found on the web I would think you may be
> >> able to find samples on small business sites in your country.
> >
> > This is not a business in a commercial sense, and I prefer to keep it in
> > English rather than French. All such articles that will be officially
> > registered in the commercial registry must be in French. The Netherlands
> > is the only country that permits such articles in English. So I don't
> > intend to register the association with the commercial registry. This is
> > perfectly OK in Switzerland.
> >
> > I suspect that there are plenty of such articles of association on the
> > web, but they are usually articles of foundation for a foundation such as
> > for Apache, Python, ... Though they are not exactly what I want, they
> > will most likely have the essential elements definining how they are
> > governed, ...
> >
> >> These types of things are very, very country specific. You also need to
> >> see if there are any restrictions as to who can be part of the
> >> association.
> >
> > Yes, these things are very country specific, but Switzerland doesn't
> > stick its nose into private affairs as much as other countries. The laws
> > are pretty specific for corporations, but for associations, there are
> > almost no restrictions. They just define what is needed to create an
> > association. This is no problem as I am *very* famaliar with these kinds
> > of Swiss laws (unfortunately).
> >
> >>> examples of such documents that already exist for Open Source projects.
> >>
> >> But wouldn't these be legal documents pertinent to the country of the
> >> assocation? Are those samples for other open source projects in your
> >> country?
> >
> > As I mentioned, for associations (as opposed to corporations), the laws
> > here are not very restrictive. There may be samples of other open source
> > projects in Switzerland, and I will look, but I doubt there are many if
> > any, and I am more interested in what Bacula users want. I expect that
> > this association will decide how the money donated to Bacula is spent,
> > and will probably hold the copyright to the code, so at least in some
> > small measure, everyone should have a bit of interest in this.
> >
> > I'll get back to everyone in about a week with a few more details about
> > what the requirements are and what I suggest.
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Best regards,
Kern
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