Holy Snikeys!

That sounds link no fun at all.
First of all, doing a cp -v --preserve=all is not sufficient for backups, at
the minimum you need to use tar (you do not need to make a tar archive, you
can pipe with tar and just use it as a transport and archiving medium) or
cpio. Cp will break under certain conditions and if there is a problem with
any data on the disk it will simply fail, where as tar is designed to do
mass archives so it will not break no matter how large (there are limits)
the directory structure is and cpio will copy bad sectors happily.

Doing incremental and differentials is kind of a waste of time as the
differential will do all the same work as you're incremental's so you are
doing the work over again. Differentials do incremental backups based on
changes from the last full backup, where as incremental just save changes
from the last incremental backup.

How much data are you backing up from how many servers?
What kind of recovery ability do you want to have as that will dictate what
kind of backup methods you need to use, for example we do web hosting so I
need to be able to provide full backups of several weeks (we all know
hosting customers are notorious for updating sites with bad data and then
not knowing about it for a while...) as well as provide reasonable backup
and recovery times so the 1 full and 6 diff's fit our needs.
What are your backup and recovery needs?

Of course it is easier to automate the backup and restore processes with
scripts or bacula, but if all you want to do is archive the data with
minimal recovery, all you REALLY need to do is use rsync and mirror the data
from one disk to another then you can rotate those mirrors as often as you
wish.

-Grant

-----Original Message-----
From: Danie Theron [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, March 10, 2006 2:19 AM
To: Syadmin
Cc: 'Bacula-Users'
Subject: Re: [Bacula-users] Some advise needed

Hi ,

Yes I only run disk based backups. I run one full backup monthly , with 
differentials every second week and then incrementals weekly. My 
offsites I use a straight 'cp -v --preserve=all' to copy those over to 
an offsite disk of which I have 3 I rotate. The copying is quite a 
lengthy process (creating dirs etc) , was wondering if won't be easier 
to automate it with either a script or bacula.



Syadmin wrote:
> I take it you do not have a tape library or a drive, so you are doing
> backups to disk?
>
> What do you WANT to have happen? What is your offsite procedure?
>
> I have a 10 tape library and I run a full once a week and swap out those
> full tapes on a weekly basis so I always have 4 weeks of full backups in
the
> library and a 5 week off site. 
> Are you trying to accomplish something like the above?
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Danie
Theron
> Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 9:49 AM
> To: Bacula-Users
> Subject: [Bacula-users] Some advise needed
>
> Hi All ,
>
> I've been using bacula for a while now , and need to do a harddrive 
> (SATA) upgrade (or shall I say bluntly I'm running out of disk 
> space!).My problem is , I only have a 2U server (4 300GB SATA in RAID 5 
> array) , and 2 trays for my offsite disks.So , to briefly explain my 
> setup (and please tell me where I need to specify more):
>
> 2U Intel Server with SATA RAID controller
> OS - Fedora Core 3 , resides on the RAID 5 array , 4 300GB Seagates (not 
> sure if it's the safest bet)
> Bacula version - Version: 1.38.0 (28 October 2005)
>
> For the offsites (and once again probably not the best way , any 
> suggestions?) , I pop in the disk , mount it and then copy over the 
> previous nights volumes. This however I've seen is quite tedious , and 
> could possibly get confusing and difficult to manage. Would it be 
> possible to rather setup a USB/Firewire disk , with a mount point for 
> offsites and let bacula then backup the volumes?
>
> OK , so basically I need some advise on how to move forward with either 
> this setup , or rethink my strategy. Also I must add I'm not an expert 
> at this and it's basically been given to me to sort out.
>
> TIA
>
> Daniel
>
>
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