On 15 Oct 2005 at 23:38, Christoph Haas wrote:

> On Saturday 15 October 2005 23:13, Dan Langille wrote:
> > On 15 Oct 2005 at 23:07, Christoph Haas wrote:
> > > On Saturday 15 October 2005 22:56, Dan Langille wrote:
> > > > On 15 Oct 2005 at 21:04, Christoph Haas wrote:
> > > > > On Saturday 15 October 2005 20:51, François Roels wrote:
> > > > > > I'm not able to backup my server any longer. Le backup processes
> > > > > > crach after any attempt without usefull (for me) message.
> > > > >
> > > > > I have filed a bug report against the package a week ago on the
> > > > > BTS (Debian's
> > > > > bug tracking system). See: http://bugs.debian.org/332743
> > > > >
> > > > > Perhaps these two cases are related? (Question asked in direction
> > > > > of the honored Bacula development crew.)
> > > >
> > > > Why did you log a Bacula bug in the Debian system?
> > >
> > > Because there could be a bug in a Debian package.
> >
> > Yes, there could be. I would expect you to establish that there was a
> > bug before logging a bug report.
>
> If a process suddenly dies without something useful in the logs then it
> smells suspiciously like a bug. There are lesser reasons to file a bug
> report.
>
> > > You probably rather wanted to ask: "Why did you not log a Bacula bug
> > > in the Bacula bug tracking system instead?"
> >
> > No, I didn't want to ask that.  I was quite precise with my choice of
> > words.
>
> If you were familiar with Debian then you would know the answer already.
> Otherwise your original question makes no sense to me.

I know less about Debian than I thought.

> > > Because that's the default way to report problem with a binary Debian
> > > package. It's the lazy end-user's way to tell the package maintainer
> > > that there is a problem. In case the package being shipped with Debian
> > > Sarge has a serious bug - perhaps even a security-relevant one - then
> > > Debian needs to take action quickly. That could mean packaging a
> > > slightly newer version or adding upstream patches to the "old" version
> > > by the package maintainer.
> > >
> > > Usually asking the (upstream) software developers means getting the
> > > reply "ah, that has been fixed in a later version - please upgrade".
> > > But Debian doesn't work that way. The package maintainer's duty is to
> > > look into the bug report, hopefully verify the bug and decide whether
> > > to forward that report upstream.
> >
> > That process sounds inefficient and places too much work upon the
> > packager.
>
> Question it all you want. That's the way it works.

I didn't question it at all. I provided my opinion.

> Now if we can please get on-topic again.

Don't be so dimissive.  Bug resolution is very much on-topic.
Knowledge gathering helps that.

> No need to raise the temperature with off-topic discussions.

No temperature being raised here.  I'm asking questions so as to
understand the process better.

But as you wish.  I'll bother you no more on this.
--
Dan Langille : http://www.langille.org/
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