Hi,

On 13.09.2005 01:20, ty Wilson wrote:

Thanks for your help, Arno. I just started a new position at this organisation, and I didn't want to start rocking the boat with regards to their current back-up 'solution' just yet. I'll need to re-jig the back-ups so that it works the way you said, instead of the relabelling madness we currently have :-)

Well, assuming that I suggested a better solution than what you currently have (and this is something *I* couldn't decide...) use the oppurtunity to show them why it was worth hiring you :-)

Arno

Thanks again!
- ty


From: Arno Lehmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: ty Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
CC: bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Bacula-users] Volume Relabelling and Recycling Question
Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 11:25:55 +0200

Hello,

On 12.09.2005 07:27, ty Wilson wrote:

Hi Bacula People,
It will be painfully apparent that I am new to bacula.
Our organisation performs a backup to two SDLTs every week (it takes two to hold the full set). Every four weeks, they want to relabel the tapes as 'monthly-XX', do the weekly back-up to it, take that week's tapes off site. They also want to bring back two old monthly tapes from way-back-whenever and relabel them with the weekly tape pair name of the ones that they'd relabelled to make the monthly (whoa, I just lost /myself/!).



Ah, I see you just understood why it's sometimes more useful to let bacula do the volume handling :-)

Anyway, all that aside--I've read the manual and I'm just not sure on a particular issue: can one purge then relabel volumes willy-nilly, even with volume names you've used before, and backups will still happen happily?


Yes.
You can do what you describe, although I think it's not necessary.
It requires manual intervention where things could happen automatically, or some clever scripting.

Both possibilities are, in my opinion, not the best choice in terms of data security.

Why don't you let bacula do what it's designed for?

Prepare two pools, one for monthly, one for weekly backups, set the retention times to what you want, and let the backups write to the right pools.

Bacula will automatically handle volume retention and only overwrite tapes that are pruned, i.e. where you decided that the data was old enough to be overwritten.

You wouldn't have to think about volume labels and relabeling, only move the tapes offsite and bring them back. The book-keeping can be done by bacula, and after all, that's the main point of using such a software.

E.g.:
we have the following SDLTs on-site:
wk1.a, wk1.b ; wk2.a, wk2.b ; wk3.a, wk3.b ; wk4.a, wk4.b
and say the following off site:
mth1.a, mth1.b

it's weekly backup time so I put the full set over: wk3.a and wk3.b
...
now it's monthly backup time, so I purge wk4.a and wk4.b, relabel them as mth2.a and mth2.b, put the full set over mth2.a and mth2.b, then take mth2.a and mth2.b off site. I bring back mth1.a and mth1.b from off site, purge them, relabel them to wk4.a and wk4.b then I'll be able to use them in the weekly cycle again.

(Am I right?)



Basically, yes, but you can do things simpler - simpler to setup and simpler to operate. You might lose some of your tape rotating, using some tapes more than others, but I think that's a fair price for a simple setup.

Arno


Pre-emptive thanks,
ty

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