>>>>> On Tue, 28 Jun 2005 09:24:14 +0200, Kern Sibbald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:

  Kern> On Monday 27 June 2005 22:24, Martin Simmons wrote:
  >> >>>>> On Mon, 20 Jun 2005 10:20:49 +0200, Arno Lehmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  >> >>>>> said:
  >> 
  Arno> Hello,
  >> 
  Arno> Siju George wrote:
  >> >> On 6/20/05, Siju George <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  >> >>> Hi,
  >> >>>
  >> >>>
  >> >>> I am looking at Bacula
  >> >>> but the line
  >> >>> # Files deleted after a Full save will be included in a restoration.
  >> >>> in
  >> >>> http://www.bacula.org/rel-manual/Current_State_Bacula.html
  >> >>> under
  >> >>> Current Implementation Restrictions
  >> >>> makes me a little apprhensive.
  >> >>> Is Bacula actually not able to backup Directory structures??
  >> >>>
  >> >>> i.e
  >> >>>
  >> >>> If in a Directory "dir1" I have "file1", "file2" & "file3" and I take
  >> >>> a full backup "backup1" on "Day1" the I delete "file2" from "dir1"
  >> >>> and take a differential backup "backup2".
  >> >>>
  >> >>> Now I should be able to restore "dir1" from "backup2" with only
  >> >>> "file1" and "file2"
  >> >>
  >> >> Sorry :-( this should read as "file1" & "file3"
  >> 
  Arno> You _can_ restore file1 file2 and file3 in dir1. However, when you
  >> use Arno> bacula to manage a restore and tell it to make a complete restore
  >> it Arno> will restore all three files.
  Arno> If you tell bacula to only use the differential backup then, of
  >> course, Arno> file2 will not be restored. Usually you will not do this
  >> because it's Arno> baculas job to keep track which jobs and volumes it
  >> needs to restore :-)
  >> 
  Arno> So, of course bacula saves and retrieves directory structure, but
  >> it Arno> does not keep track of deletions.
  >> 
  Arno> The latter would require a complete compare of all directory
  >> entries to Arno> be backed up with what bacula has in its catalog and thus
  >> would be very Arno> resource intensive.

  Kern> One day in the near future, I will do exactly this.  I've now finally 
figured 
  Kern> out a simple way to do this -- but darn, I forgot to write it down.  Oh 
well, 
  Kern> it will come to me again :-)

  >> 
  >> Done correctly, it should be possible to do all the work in restore for
  >> filesystems that work properly.  Backup just has to record the inode number
  >> for each changed file.

  Kern> The problem is that inode is a machine specific concept. Though it can 
be 
  Kern> simulated, it doesn't exist on Win32 or Mac (well perhaps on OS X).  
Though 
  Kern> this would work nicely as you say, I always like to do things in 
machine 
  Kern> independent ways.

Good luck remembering it -- I don't see how you can do it without the inode
number to detect which files are the same!

__Martin


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