Hello, On Wednesday 08 June 2005 23:58, Arno Lehmann wrote: > Hi, > > Andrew Paterson wrote: > > Hi Arno, > > Nice to hear from you again, I know you were having some problems with > > the interrelationships (dependencies) of bacula-web and wer a bit peeved. > > Erm, no. Dependencies were no problem at all. Download, unpack, copy to > apaches document folder, configure, done. > > > I wouldn't be arrogant enough to say I didn't at first - I've had it > > running for about 6 months now & have forgotten the early misery! I do > > recall I took some time to get the thing working. I have some experience > > of writing php & looking at bacula-web I don't think it's a case of it > > being badly written - in fact its pretty good I think. Its just that php > > in any volume is a diabolical eye-strain!!!! > > Well, for me C or C++ or almost every programming language is worse, but > when I write code it's usually either bash or perl or php. > > > Now back to the main point, there are three excellent things about > > bacula-web (which makes it a diabolical shame there has been no > > development on it for the last year) 1. Its web-based - access it from > > anywhere. > > 2. It is "read only" any fool can examine the state of the backups but > > not write to anything & therefore do no damage 3. It undoubtably packs a > > phenomenal amount of information int a single web-page!! - that I can > > only credit whoever wrote it as being bloody good design!. > > Quite right. > > > However I am always remembering it is only a little tool to make the > > incredible BACULA a little more friendly :) > > > > So I do hope that you (after all - you're a major bacula supporter) will > > become enthusiastic towards it & join with me in persuading the developer > > to pick it up again & "do some more". > > Well, that would be worth some effort, but since it's open source > everybody could try to improve it, if the original developer has > different priorities.
I have been planning to make it officially part of the Bacula project, but *everything* has gone slower than I imagined in 1.37. I am now to the point where I am ready to create a special GUI CVS for Bacula where we can put software like Bacula-web and thus multiple developers can work on it, and we can make more or less regular releases of those programs (not necessarily at the same time as the Bacula releases). It is interesting that the list has become active on the subject of bacula-web now, because just last week, I said to my self -- OK, now is the time to try to organize our GUIs ... also, I now have a test machine with everything needed to run it, it is just a matter of taking the time to load it and resolve any dependencies ... > > Arno > > > Top posting ..... :( > > I'm just a bone-idle prat with a PC running outlook - no excuse > > really!!!!!! > > > > Micro$oft does things like that to you :P > > > > Best Regards > > > > Andrew Paterson > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Arno > > Lehmann Sent: 08 June 2005 21:31 > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Cc: bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net > > Subject: Re: [Bacula-users] Re: Trying to use Bacula-web > > > > Hello, > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >>Andrew, Arno, thanks for your replies. (Side issue: is top-posting normal > >> procedure here?) > > > > Top-posting is so common here that I got used to it and sometimes are > > ... reminded to avoid it on other mailing lists :-) > > > >>I am still not clear whether my php is correctly installed with gd and > >> gettext. I didn't compile php from source, I think it was installed by > >> default. I am using SuSE 9.1. I'll post a query on the php newsgroup to > >> try to resolve this. > > > > I'm using 9.2 and I see not dificulties using php in apache at all. > > Command line php works fine, too. Do you see any errors? > > > > By the way, including ini_set("error_reporting", 0); in the php files > > resolved the Notices php gives here. > > > > Sidenote: > > Although or perhaps because I'm not a programmer I really think that a > > program should be considered buggy when it reports warnings of any kind. > > Bacula-web does, unfortunately. > > > > The output is nice enough and gives the details I need to manage pools > > (and possibly to make sure I've got enough tapes :-) > > > > Another Sidenote: > > W3 validator says: > > Address: ...homeip.net/bacula-web/index.php > > Encoding: iso-8859-1 > > Doctype: (detect automatically) HTML 4.01 Transitional > > Errors: 470 > > Validating as 4.01 Strict results in 629 Errors here. > > > > Now, I don't know Smarty and so can't say if this frameworkis broken or > > if Juan Luis Francés Jiménez never intended to make this perfect, but I > > don't like those things... one day you use a new browser and only get an > > empty page or a broken layout. Ok, I stop criticizing now :-) > > > > Please, understand that I don't simply want to talk bad about other > > peoples projects - rather, I hope that someone will help improving > > Bacula-web. At the moment, there's not much development taking place, it > > seems. And, of course and as I have written above - it works, and it > > looks good. > > > > Arno > > > >>Andrew, you mentioned that Bacula-web has "a painful list of > >> dependencies"; any chance you list them for me? > >> > >>Thanks > >> > >>Graham Dicker > >> > >>>Once more, perhaps somebody's interested: > >>> > >>>You can set php's error reporting off (or restrict it to serious errors) > >>>and Bacula-web works much better. > >>> > >>>Still, I think that collection of script does need some work. > >>> > >>>I just signed up at Bacula-web's bugtracker to inform the author. > >>> > >>>Arno > >>> > >>>Arno Lehmann wrote: > >>>>Hello, > >>>> > >>>>well, I have it installed here and it's working, although not really > >>>>that great... > >>>> > >>>>Installation was ok, I don't recall what exactly I had to modify, but > >>>> it was done in a few minutes. > >>>> > >>>>When I load the pages, though, I get loads of Notices: > Notice: > >>>>Undefined index: Full_popup in /srv/www/htdocs/bacula-web/index.php on > >>>>line 82 Notice: Undefined variable: TotalElapsed in > >>>>/srv/www/htdocs/bacula-web/index.php on line 98 Notice: Undefined > >>>>variable: TotalElapsed in /srv/www/htdocs/bacula-web/ind... > >>>> > >>>>And graphics are not produced, although the test checking for gd went > >>>>fine and I know I have gd installed and included in php. > >>>> > >>>>The first thing item is, in my opinion, a good example for sloppy > >>>>programming. The second is harder to understand for me because I don't > >>>>know the framework Bacula-web uses and didn't spend much time working > >>>>through it. > >>>> > >>>>And, since I know that others have it working correctly, I think the > >>>>problem must be somewhere in my installation. Ah, I just looked - the > >>>>missing images are a result of the notices because php can't set up the > >>>>headers for an image file after it sent its notices. > >>>> > >>>>Arno > >>>> > >>>>Andrew Paterson wrote: > >>>>>Yes > >>>>> I have it working (on Solaris 9 & linux) and it is a really good > >>>>>piece of software. > >>>>>Its easy to get working on linux, solaris is another matter. > >>>>>You shouldn't need to do any moves (try a copy next time) since you > >>>>>are just asking to break something else doing that! > >>>>>Also if you get your ./configure options right you shouldn't have a > >>>>>problem. > >>>>>I did find that bacula-web has a painful lot of dependencies. > >>>>>But by golly it was well worth the pain!. > >>>>>I would doubt if anything is wrong with php! however are you sure you > >>>>>have an apache built with php support? > >>>>> > >>>>>I have built everything from source - php 4, apache 1.3.31, bacula, > >>>>>bacula-web, gd, gettext .... so persevere. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>-----Original Message----- > >>>>>*From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>>>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of > >>>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>>>*Sent:* 07 June 2005 4:12PM > >>>>>*To:* bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net > >>>>>*Subject:* [Bacula-users] Trying to use Bacula-web > >>>>> > >>>>> Has anyone had success in getting bacula-web to work? When I try > >>>>> test.php it gives me two errors: one for GD and one for gettext. I > >>>>> was getting an error for Pear(DB) too but I cured that by copying > >>>>> DB.php from /usr/share/php to /srv/www/bacula-web_1.1. I don't know > >>>>> if this was a wise move. > >>>>> In the man entry for php it says to use the following command > >>> > >>>to > >>> > >>>>> show the configuration of your gd extension: > >>>>> php -r 'print r(gd info());' > >>>>> When I do this it responds: > >>>>> Parse error: parse error in Command line code on line 1 > >>>>> so I assume there must be something wrong with php. However > >>>>>when I > >>>>> do the command: > >>>>> php -m > >>>>> both gd and gettext are listed. > >>>>> TIA > >>>>> Graham Dicker > >>> > >>>-- > >>>IT-Service Lehmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>Arno Lehmann http://www.its-lehmann.de > >>> > >>> > >>>------------------------------------------------------- > >>>This SF.Net email is sponsored by: NEC IT Guy Games. 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