Sorry about that. Gmail fools me sometimes. :) ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Jo-Erlend Schinstad <joerlend.schins...@gmail.com> Date: 27 July 2011 17:04 Subject: Re: [Ayatana] Place "Shut Down" as the last entry in the Sessions-Menu for Oneiric and beyond To: Matthew Paul Thomas <m...@canonical.com>
On 27 July 2011 13:39, Matthew Paul Thomas <m...@canonical.com> wrote: > We have no evidence that a non-trivial proportion of people notice > differently colored icons in the menu bar. You might say that's an assumption, based on personal experience and observation. Sure, it's not a scientific test, and I only have tested it on 10-20 people. But I noticed it the first time it changed color and I was surprised by how effective that really is. > I don't see how they'd be more likely to search for them in the menu bar. * the indicators are visible. The launcher is not. * bluetooth is displayed as an indicator, not as a launcher. * you often have many usb devices connected. * devices need a description. Menus as suitable for that. Launchers aren't. > Personally, I would find more inviting a launcher that I could put > anything into -- applications, bookmarks, documents, folders, contacts, > whatever. I can do that with the Mac OS X Dock and (mostly) with the > Windows 7 taskbar. Interesting. Wouldn't that make the launcher notifications (usb, etc) even more difficult to find? I thought I would want to keep all of my most used applications on the launcher and that I would temporarily move icons up and down according to what I'm doing so that I could rearrange keyboard shortcuts. Turns out I do, but in a much smaller degree than I had expected. The first six launchers are completely static. The next four is more "dynamic", used for documents I'm working on right now, but don't need to launch using keyboard shortcuts. That works well for me, because then I launch and switch to my most used applications using only the left hand, and the shortcuts get very familiar. The work I'm doing right now changes, so I have to look up the shortcut number in any case, meaning that it doesn't bother me that I have to use two hands. In that regard, it would be nice if we could make a certain window type ungroupable, so that you could easily switch between open writer documents, for instance. But then the usability rapidly declines. I might have 13 tiles, but not more. Scrolling up and down a thin strip of tiles just isn't effective. I feel compelled to use the mouse, and that's a bad thing, but in any case, it just doesn't provide a good overview. So I end up launching applications from the dash and then closing them rather than keeping them around in the launcher. So my impression is that the launcher should be used for the absolute most common operations, and then the dash could display an overview of what's going on. That is to say, a list of running applications and open documents, possibly ordered by application frequency and then document use frequency. It might possibly be useful to display a few documents that aren't open too, but that are used frequently. A benefit of that, is that you'd have a better overview, and access to a much larger set of keyboard shortcuts than just numbers. I can't imagine that I would ever want to use the launcher for files, links and folders. I also think that I'd rather unmount USB devices from nautilus than from the launcher. The preference of course, would be to have an indicator for them, since I think that's a very obvious place for things like that. Thanks. Jo-Erlend _______________________________________________ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatana Post to : ayatana@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ayatana More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
