On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 8:29 PM, Joern Konopka <cldx3...@googlemail.com> wrote: > On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 1:27 AM, Mark Shuttleworth <m...@ubuntu.com> wrote: >> >> On 08/08/10 20:49, Apoorva Sharma wrote: >> > I like all these ideas, but why not do what KDE4 did, and present a >> > desktop of files, a zeitgeist timeline, etc. as widgets, so you could >> > have access to files and useful information? >> >> I do think a gadget story is interesting. There's no really compelling >> framework out there today, though. Google's implementations have a lot >> of rendering and usability problems, and the gadgets are not attractive. >> Yahoo's is closed source. The others are marginal. > > I was thinking more on the lines of desktop implementations, not web > implemtation, like KDE4's Plasma. > >> Am I missing a good candidate?
> If I may lead attention to SeedKit for a second: > http://live.gnome.org/SeedKit > In a nutshell it's a gtkWidget holding a (optionally) transparent webkit > container, it ties strongly with the Seed JavaScript Implementation, GObject > Introspection and DBUS (all the sweet stuff everyones looking at right now). > I think by putting WebTechnology in the front row we'll have the highest > possible developer base. Just imagine something like A Ubuntu Widget Website > not unlike Android Market or the App Store ( or a tie in with the USC ) > where people can upload new Widgets which provide them with capabilities > like : > 1. Easy to learn and get into ( any other guy could write a basic Widget > within under a Day) > 2. Are easily portable to other Mobile Devices, Websites and Distributions > 3. Offers Devs of f.e. iPhone HTML5 Apps a very convenient way to bring > their Apps to a new Audience in form of a Widget. > The sweet thing about it, it's already working and would only need the > WM_CLASS treatment (meaning a window class for widgets of course). > One could even go as far as supplying the Widget with a pull and push > function (Pull= a "real" GTKWindow, push=move back to widget space) and you > could even "listen" to the window state via CSS Media Queries. > Proof of concept: > http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1890515/MiniPlayerPreview.ogv > I pulled this off in just a couple hours even though I never used Seedkit > before. Thanks for point that out! I hadn't come across that yet. It looks very promising, and I can't wait to dig into it more. What I'd really like to see is something like this in a sandboxed environment. There's been a lot of talk about making it easier for "opportunistic" developers to get apps out to Ubuntu users, and the comparison is always iPhone|Android. In some ways the discussion of the new "Post Release App" process is putting the cart before the horse. Developing a framework like this paired with something like the "Post Release App" process could be very interesting... - Andrew SB _______________________________________________ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatana Post to : ayatana@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ayatana More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp