Still proxying for Martin. On Wednesday, June 09, 2010 01:02:14 pm Martin Gräßlin wrote: > Am Mittwoch 09 Juni 2010, 06:13:17 schrieb Ted Gould: > > Cool, that is great! But, I'm worried that we're approaching this from > > different assumptions. My reaction there is "let's figure out how to > > make CSD work" while yours seems to be "let's figure out how to get > > window decorations to work." So, I guess my question is: If we assume > > that the window manager isn't going to draw decorations, how can we make > > that works as good as possible with KWin? > > Please tell me you are joking. After all the arguments I presented you > still think CSD is the road to go? You completely ignore my arguments, you > actually have not even read my arguments or you would know that some > things like closing hung windows or aligning window buttons are > impossible. > > All I wanted was to start a discussion about what is missing in > decorations. It's not me who wants to keep window decorations, it's you > who want to replace something working with a broken concept. And you > should at least be able to present one valid use case what can only be > achieved with CSD. So far you only proofed that you have no idea what's > possible with window decorations. This mail is quite a slap into my face > and an insult. I really hope this is not the attitude Ubuntu stands for > today. I thought it was about "humanity". > > I wanted to offer my help. I saw that you are heading in the wrong > direction based on the missinformation that you cannot achieve certain > theming options with window decorations. As I presented several times in > this thread all you want is possible right now in kwin. Apparently you did > not even take the time to look through the mails on the wm-spec mailing > list or my blog posts of the last half year. > > I'm totally shocked. I hope for the future of Ubuntu that you will learn > that you cannot ignore your Upstreams. And you can be sure that I won't > spent one minute on fixing any issue caused by CSD in kwin. Bug reports > will be set to invalid and I will enforce window decorations on CSD > windows, if it is necessary. It would be unacceptable that windows cannot > be closed if they hung. > > I wish you all the best, but I feel like wasting my time in this > discussion. Go your way, destroy the user experience we used to have.
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