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From: "Kasper Nielsen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Avalon Developers List" <avalon-dev@jakarta.apache.org>
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 8:32 PM
Subject: Re: IDEs


> would you mind giving a short review, I can't seem to get it running, and
I
> have the feeling it will be the IDE of choice in a year or two,
considering
> who is backing it up.
>

yes, probably but as you've said this will happen in a year or two. I have
tried using it two times and every time, it was so unusable that I stopped
after half a day of trying to get my project set up correctly. It's missing
almost everything, isn't cvs friendly (doesn't work well). I'm a bit harsh
probably. It has great potential and it will probably become very good
within 6months - 1 year, but not now. Almost bear in mind that it is *not*
and IDE but a general platform and they only have a very basic IDE in that
platform (which is not good and cannot compete at all with other existing
ides at the current point). Their goal is to make an open platform and let
everyone create plugin for it, including IBM itself (through WSAD).

check the eclipse newsgroup to know more (www.eclipse.org)

-Vincent

> - Kasper
>
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> Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 7:29 PM
> Subject: RE: IDEs
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> > Eclipse http://www.eclipse.org is beginning to shape up nicely.
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