On 30 October 2014 09:55, Arne Babenhauserheide (IMK) <arne.babenhauserhe...@kit.edu> wrote: >> Great. But people don't *want* to adhere to the GNU style, > > Do not want to adhere to the GNU style or do they not want to bother > with creating the files? There is a very important difference in > motivation: People from the first group get what they want with foreign > style. People from the latter group however would be happy to use GNU > style, if it did not create additional work for them.
The problem is that it does, given that GNU style is not the presence of those four files or not, but also involves the portability warnings and further limitations designed for the GNU project, that they most likely won't care about. I get it, you want to get them to see the Light of GNU. But I'm not there to indoctrinate on the style of ChangeLog people need to use, I'm there to get people a working build system that does not drive packagers crazy. > This change is for the latter group, since the former group can already > switch to foreign style by just adding a single parameter. Thus why I'm saying I don't care. If you want to do that for the GNU people I don't care, I just think it's a false assumption that people won't be complaining about another of the GNU style rules at some point. > Autogenerating the AUTHORS and ChangeLog would reduce this to a single > 0-sized file, because nowadays most people understand that a README is > important -- I think the same will happen for the NEWS file, once code > hosting platforms start using the NEWS file as source to provide > human-readable news about projects. Then this would eliminate the > 0-sized files. Err, no. I mean no really. Autogenerating them may help sure, but I don't think "people understand a README is important" — people get *forced* to understand a README is needed, but for instance I wouldn't use gnu style anyway because I call my file README.md so that GitHub at least *renders* it correctly. So yeah, I still expect 0-sized files all around. > Note: Here you note that autotools need COPYING, > but this is created automatically nowadays. > You only need to provide it if you don’t want to use the GPL. Which once again I'm not assuming people do. Because I've seen packages in which the README and the source says MIT, but then they got a default GPL COPYING in there. Which is bad, and I hope I don't have to explain to you how and why. Again, carry on, it can't make things worse but I'll still suggest people to stay away from gnu style unless they are part of the GNU project. Diego Elio Pettenò — Flameeyes flamee...@flameeyes.eu — http://blog.flameeyes.eu/
