Hi everyone, Back in July, I followed the thread "AC_DEFINE-descriptions with 2.14*" which was concerned with whether or not you could only use literal arguents to AC_DEFINE_UNQUOTED. That discussion seemed to fizzle out before the question was totally resolved, and I was hoping to revive it. One thing that was asked for were real-life examples where the argument to AC_DEFINE_UNQUOTED was a computed value - so I've got a couple. In the autoconf setup for the AFS workalike "arla", there are a several pairs of m4 macros - the first takes a list of things to check and calls the second with each element of the list in turn as an argument. For instance, "have-linux-kernel-types.m4" and "have-linux-kernel-type.m4". In the second macro you find the line: AC_DEFINE_UNQUOTED($ac_tr_hdr, 1) where "ac_tr_hdr" contains the name of the type being checked. In fact you also find a computed value being used as the argument for AC_MSG_RESULT. Both uses work just fine with autoconf-2.13; neither works with CVS autoconf. There are a few other very similar m4 macros in the arla sources. The docs do say that shell expansions will be performed on the argument to AC_DEFINE_UNQUOTED, so I think the arla folks are properly relying on advertised behavior. This is the expected behavior, right? Now, I can see that having computed arguments for AC_DEFINE_UNQUOTED will jam a big, fat wrench into the new way that autoheader works, but that's another issue. Cheers, Dave -- David Morrison Brookhaven National Laboratory phone: 631-344-5840 Physics Department, Bldg 510 C fax: 631-344-3253 Upton, NY 11973-5000 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]