I approve. On Thu, Sep 11, 2025 at 8:45 PM Madison Church <mchu...@staff.rfc-editor.org> wrote:
> Hi Lode, > > Thank you for your reply! We have marked your approval on the AUTH48 > status page (see https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9841). > > Once we receive approvals from Jyrki, Thai, and Evgenii, we will move this > document forward in the publication process. > > Thank you! > > Madison Church > RFC Production Center > > > On Sep 11, 2025, at 3:38 AM, Lode Vandevenne <l...@google.com> wrote: > > > > Hello Madison, > > > > I also approve the RFC for publication > > > > Thank you and kind regards, > > Lode Vandevenne > > > > Am Di., 9. Sept. 2025 um 23:52 Uhr schrieb Madison Church < > mchu...@staff.rfc-editor.org>: > > Hi All, > > > > Mike - Thank you for your reply! We have marked your approval as AD on > the AUTH48 status page (see https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9841). > > > > Authors - We now await approvals from Jyrki, Thai, Evgenii, and Lode. > Once we receive all author approvals, we will move this document forward in > the publication process. > > > > Thank you! > > > > Madison Church > > RFC Production Center > > > > > On Sep 9, 2025, at 2:37 PM, Mike Bishop <mbis...@evequefou.be> wrote: > > > > > > It's related to work in the HTTP WG, so I'll take it. I've reviewed > the Auth48 changes, including that sentence in the abstract, and I > approve.From: Madison Church <mchu...@staff.rfc-editor.org> > > > Sent: Monday, September 8, 2025 4:26 PM > > > To: Gorry Fairhurst <go...@erg.abdn.ac.uk>; Mike Bishop < > mbis...@evequefou.be> > > > Cc: RFC Editor <rfc-edi...@rfc-editor.org>; > auth48archive@rfc-editor.org <auth48archive@rfc-editor.org>; > pmee...@google.com<pmee...@google.com>; Jyrki Alakuijala <jy...@google.com>; > Zoltan Szabadka <szaba...@google.com>; eus...@google.com<eus...@google.com>; > tha...@google.com <tha...@google.com>; l...@google.com <l...@google.com> > > > Subject: Re: [ADs - Gorry and Mike] AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9841 > <draft-vandevenne-shared-brotli-format-15> for your review > > > Hi Gorry and Mike, > > > > > > We are unsure who the responsible AD is for this document, so we are > requesting that one of you (as WIT ADs) review and approve an update that > was made to the last sentence of the Abstract (see > https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9841-auth48diff.html). > > > > > > Original: > > > This document updates RFC 7932. > > > > > > Current: > > > This document specifies an extension to the method defined in RFC 7932. > > > > > > Thank you! > > > > > > Madison Church > > > RFC Production Center > > > > > > > On Sep 8, 2025, at 3:14 PM, Madison Church < > mchu...@staff.rfc-editor.org> wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi Zoltan, > > > > > > > > Thank you for your reply! We have noted your approval (see > https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9841). > > > > > > > > Once we receive all approvals listed on the AUTH48 status page, we > will move this document forward in the publication process. > > > > > > > > Thank you! > > > > > > > > Madison Church > > > > RFC Production Center > > > > > > > >> On Sep 5, 2025, at 3:36 AM, Zoltan Szabadka <szaba...@google.com> > wrote: > > > >> > > > >> Hi Madison, > > > >> > > > >> I approve the RFC for publication. > > > >> > > > >> Thank you, > > > >> Zoltan Szabadka > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> On Thu, Sep 4, 2025 at 8:31 PM Madison Church < > mchu...@staff.rfc-editor.org> wrote: > > > >> Hi Zoltan, > > > >> > > > >> Thank you for your reply! We have updated the files with your > requested changes and posted them below. > > > >> > > > >> Additionally, note that we have updated the text below from Section > 9 to match the text that appears in Section 9.2 of RFC-to-be-9842 > (draft-ietf-httpbis-compression-dictionary-19), which is also in Cluster > 509 and normatively references this document (see > https://www.rfc-editor.org/cluster_info.php?cid=C509). > > > >> > > > >> Original: > > > >> Not only can the dictionary reveal information about the > compressed > > > >> data, but vice versa, data compressed with the dictionary can > reveal > > > >> the contents of the dictionary when an adversary can control > parts of > > > >> data to compress and see the compressed size. > > > >> > > > >> Current: > > > >> The dictionary can reveal information about the compressed data > and > > > >> vice versa. That is, data compressed with the dictionary can > reveal > > > >> contents of the dictionary when an adversary can control parts of > the > > > >> data to compress and see the compressed size. > > > >> > > > >> Updated files (please refresh): > > > >> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9841.txt > > > >> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9841.pdf > > > >> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9841.html > > > >> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9841.xml > > > >> > > > >> Updated diff files: > > > >> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9841-diff.html > > > >> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9841-rfcdiff.html (side by > side) > > > >> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9841-auth48diff.html > > > >> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9841-auth48rfcdiff.html > (side by side) > > > >> > > > >> Once we receive all approvals listed on the AUTH48 status page (see > https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9841), we will move this document > forward in the publication process. > > > >> > > > >> Thank you, > > > >> Madison Church > > > >> RFC Production Center > > > >> > > > >>> On Sep 4, 2025, at 2:32 AM, Zoltan Szabadka <szaba...@google.com> > wrote: > > > >>> > > > >>> I went over the diffs again, see below a few more minor findings. > > > >>> > > > >>> Section 1.5 > > > >>> > > > >>> "bytes with the MSB are also written on the left" should be > changed to "we also write bytes with the MSB on the left" > > > >>> > > > >>> Section 3.1 > > > >>> > > > >>> "If the dictionary is context dependent, it includes a lookup > table of a 64 word list and transform list combinations." > > > >>> > > > >>> Here the indefinite article before 64 feels wrong, since it refers > to combinations, which is plural, so "of a 64" should be changed to "of 64". > > > >>> > > > >>> Section 5. > > > >>> > > > >>> LZ7711 --> LZ77 > > > >>> > > > >>> On Wed, Sep 3, 2025 at 4:38 PM Madison Church < > mchu...@staff.rfc-editor.org> wrote: > > > >>> Hi Authors, *Francesca, > > > >>> > > > >>> Authors - This is a friendly reminder that we have yet to hear > back from you regarding this document’s readiness for publication. > > > >>> > > > >>> *Francesca - As responsible AD for this document, please review > and approve the following change in the Abstract (see > https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9841-auth48diff.html). > > > >>> > > > >>> Please review the AUTH48 status page ( > http://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9841) for further information and the > previous messages in this thread. > > > >>> > > > >>> Thank you! > > > >>> Madison Church > > > >>> RFC Production Center > > > >>> > > > >>>> On Aug 27, 2025, at 2:07 PM, Madison Church < > mchu...@staff.rfc-editor.org> wrote: > > > >>>> > > > >>>> Hi Authors, *Francesca, > > > >>>> > > > >>>> Authors - Thank you for your replies! We have updated the > document per your request. Please see below for updated files. > > > >>>> > > > >>>> *Francesca - As responsible AD for this document, please review > and approve the following change in the Abstract (see > https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9841-auth48diff.html). > > > >>>> > > > >>>> Original: > > > >>>> This document updates RFC 7932. > > > >>>> > > > >>>> Current: > > > >>>> This document specifies an extension to the method defined in RFC > 7932. > > > >>>> > > > >>>> The files have been posted here (please refresh): > > > >>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9841.txt > > > >>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9841.pdf > > > >>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9841.html > > > >>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9841.xml > > > >>>> > > > >>>> The relevant diff files have been posted here: > > > >>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9841-diff.html > > > >>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9841-rfcdiff.html (side > by side) > > > >>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9841-auth48diff.html > > > >>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9841-auth48rfcdiff.html > (side by side) > > > >>>> > > > >>>> For the AUTH48 status page, please see: > https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9841. > > > >>>> > > > >>>> Once we receive all approvals, we will move this document forward > in the publication process. > > > >>>> > > > >>>> Thank you, > > > >>>> Madison Church > > > >>>> RFC Production Center > > > >>>> > > > >>>>> On Aug 26, 2025, at 7:53 AM, Zoltan Szabadka < > szaba...@google.com> wrote: > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> On Mon, Aug 25, 2025 at 9:59 PM Jyrki Alakuijala < > jy...@google.com> wrote: > > > >>>>> I think we should change: "This document updates RFC 7932." > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> It should be: "This document specifies an extension to the > method defined in RFC 7932."" > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> As far as I see, there are two almost independent considerations > here: > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> 1) Whether the document should have the "Updates: 7932" field. > This header was added during the AD review with the following reasoning > (copied here for reference): > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> "I think this document should "Update" RFC 7932. The "Update" > header tag is flexible in its usage, and doesn't necessarily mean that the > updating document is a required feature of the original document > ("extension" is a valid use of "Update"), instead it creates a forward link > from the original doc to the update. The question in this case if having > such a link from 7932 would be useful for readers of 7932. I tend to say > yes." > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> I still agree with this, so I think we should keep the Updates > header field. > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> 2) How should this header field be reflected in the abstract. > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> The relevant GENART review comment: > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> "The draft header indicates that this document updates RFC7932, > but the abstract doesn't seem to mention this, which it should." > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> In this regard I agree with Jyrki that the sentence "This > document specifies an extension to the method defined in RFC 7932." > expresses more accurately the relationship between the two RFCs. > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> RFC9841 is its own thing that is strongly based on RFC7932, but > does not change RFC7932. > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> RFC7932 is unchanged in its previous use, including the "br" > content encoding. Nothing is obsoleted, updated or changed. > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> The RFC9841 defines a new different method "sbr" to the same > ecosystem, but with different compromises. Most websites will likely keep > using "br" (RFC7932), as "sbr" gives some speed gains, but requires a > higher level of competence from the webmasters. > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> What are your thoughts about this? > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> On Mon, Aug 25, 2025 at 6:32 PM Madison Church < > mchu...@staff.rfc-editor.org> wrote: > > > >>>>> Hi Zoltan, > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> Thank you for your feedback! We have updated the document as > requested. Please see below for comments and updated files. > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>> On Aug 25, 2025, at 2:44 AM, Zoltan Szabadka < > szaba...@google.com> wrote: > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> Hi Madison, > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> I noticed some editorial changes that, in my opinion, changed > the meaning of the text. Could you restore these to the original version, > or maybe propose a wording that is even clearer? > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> Thank you, > > > >>>>>> Zoltan > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> ------------------ > > > >>>>>> In Section 3.1: > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> Original: > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> If the dictionary is context dependent, it includes a lookup > table of > > > >>>>>> 64 word list and transform list combinations. > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> Current: > > > >>>>>> If the dictionary is context dependent, it includes a lookup > table of > > > >>>>>> a 64-word list and transform list combinations. > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> I think the original text should be restored here. The intended > meaning was that each entry of the lookup table is a word list and > transform list combination and there are 64 such entries. > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> We appreciate the helpful explanation! The original text has > been restored. > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>> -------------------- > > > >>>>>> In Section 8.4.10. The "per chunks listed:" heading got > concatenated to the end of the previous field (maybe an XML formatting > mistake?). I think it should remain in a separate line, as in the original: > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> Current: > > > >>>>>> varint: Pointer into the file where the repeat metadata chunks > are > > > >>>>>> located or 0 if they are not present per chunk listed: > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> varint: Pointer into the file where this chunk begins. > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> New: > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> varint: Pointer into the file where the repeat metadata chunks > are located or 0 if they are not present > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> per chunk listed: varint: Pointer into the file where this > chunk begins. > > > >>>>>> ------------------------ > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> Thank you for catching this. We have updated this section to > match the original formatting as closely as possible. Please let us know if > the updates are correct. > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> The files have been posted here (please refresh): > > > >>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9841.txt > > > >>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9841.pdf > > > >>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9841.html > > > >>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9841.xml > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> The relevant diff files have been posted here (please refresh): > > > >>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9841-diff.html > > > >>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9841-rfcdiff.html (side > by side) > > > >>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9841-auth48diff.html > > > >>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9841-auth48rfcdiff.html > (side by side) > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> For the AUTH48 status of this document, please see: > > > >>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9841 > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> Thank you! > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> Madison Church > > > >>>>> RFC Production Center > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>> On Fri, Aug 22, 2025 at 9:51 PM Madison Church < > mchu...@staff.rfc-editor.org> wrote: > > > >>>>>> Hi Authors, > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> Zoltan - Thank you for the confirmation. We have updated the > indentation per your response. > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> All - Please review the document carefully to ensure > satisfaction as we do not make changes once it has been published as an > RFC. Contact us with any further updates or with your approval of the > document in its current form. We will await approvals from each author > prior to moving forward in the publication process. > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> The files have been posted here (please refresh): > > > >>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9841.txt > > > >>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9841.pdf > > > >>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9841.html > > > >>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9841.xml > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> The relevant diff files have been posted here (please refresh): > > > >>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9841-diff.html > > > >>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9841-rfcdiff.html (side > by side) > > > >>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9841-auth48diff.html > > > >>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9841-auth48rfcdiff.html > (side by side) > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> For the AUTH48 status of this document, please see: > > > >>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9841 > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> Thank you, > > > >>>>>> Madison Church > > > >>>>>> RFC Production Center > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> On Aug 22, 2025, at 5:47 AM, Zoltan Szabadka < > szaba...@google.com> wrote: > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> On Thu, Aug 21, 2025 at 9:33 PM Madison Church < > mchu...@staff.rfc-editor.org> wrote: > > > >>>>>>> Hi Zoltan, > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> Thank you for your reply! We have updated the document based > on your response to our questions. Please see one followup query inline. > Updated files have been posted below. > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> 19) <!-- [rfced] May we update the following unordered list > into a > > > >>>>>>>> definition list for consistency with the rest of Section 8.2? > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> Original: > > > >>>>>>>> * uncompressed: the raw bytes > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> * if "keep decoder", the continuation of the > compressed stream > > > >>>>>>>> which was interrupted at the end of the previous > chunk. The > > > >>>>>>>> decoder from the previous chunk must be used and > its state > > > >>>>>>>> it had at the end of the previous chunk must be > kept at the > > > >>>>>>>> start of the decoding of this chunk. > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> * brotli: the bytes are in brotli format [RFC7932] > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> * shared brotli: the bytes are in the shared brotli > format > > > >>>>>>>> specified in Section 7 > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> Perhaps: > > > >>>>>>>> uncompressed: The raw bytes. > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> "keep decoder": If "keep decoder", the continuation of > the compressed stream > > > >>>>>>>> that was interrupted at the end of the previous > chunk. The > > > >>>>>>>> decoder from the previous chunk must be used and > its state > > > >>>>>>>> it had at the end of the previous chunk must be > kept at the > > > >>>>>>>> start of the decoding of this chunk. > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> brotli: The bytes are in brotli format [RFC7932]. > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> shared brotli: The bytes are in the shared brotli > format > > > >>>>>>>> specified in Section 7. > > > >>>>>>>> --> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> The original unordered list format is correct here, since > only one of these is included, depending on the CODEC bits. > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> However, looking at this part now, the "X bytes: extra header > bytes" and "remaining bytes: the chunk contents" should be on the same > indentation level. > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> Thank you for the clarification! Regarding the indentation > level of "X bytes: extra header bytes" and "remaining bytes: the chunk > contents", please let us know how the text should be aligned. (That is, > should "X bytes: extra header bytes" be indented further to align with > "remaining bytes: the chunk contents"? Or should "remaining bytes: the > chunk contents" be outdented to align with the current placement of "X > bytes: extra header bytes"?) > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> The "remaining bytes: the chunk contents" should be outdented > to align with the current placement of "X bytes: extra header bytes". > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> Current: > > > >>>>>>> X bytes: Extra header bytes, depending on CHUNK_TYPE. If > present, > > > >>>>>>> they are specified in the subsequent sections. > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> remaining bytes: The chunk contents. The uncompressed > data in > > > >>>>>>> the chunk content depends on CHUNK_TYPE and is > specified in the > > > >>>>>>> subsequent sections. The compressed data has following > format > > > >>>>>>> depending on CODEC: > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> * uncompressed: The raw bytes. > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> * If "keep decoder", the continuation of the > compressed stream > > > >>>>>>> that was interrupted at the end of the previous > chunk. The > > > >>>>>>> decoder from the previous chunk must be used and its > state > > > >>>>>>> it had at the end of the previous chunk must be kept > at the > > > >>>>>>> start of the decoding of this chunk. > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> * brotli: The bytes are in brotli format [RFC7932]. > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> * shared brotli: The bytes are in the shared brotli > format > > > >>>>>>> specified in Section 7. > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> The files have been posted here (please refresh): > > > >>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9841.txt > > > >>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9841.pdf > > > >>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9841.html > > > >>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9841.xml > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> The relevant diff files have been posted here (please refresh): > > > >>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9841-diff.html > > > >>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9841-rfcdiff.html > (side by side) > > > >>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9841-auth48diff.html > > > >>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9841-auth48rfcdiff.html > (side by side) > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> For the AUTH48 status of this document, please see: > > > >>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9841 > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> Thank you, > > > >>>>>>> Madison Church > > > >>>>>>> RFC Production Center > > > >> > > > > > > > > Lode Vandevenne > > Google + Switzerland GmbH, Identifikationsnummer: CH-020.4.028.116-1 > > > >
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