Dear Alice,

I have returned from my trip.  Thank you so much for your support in driving 
this forward, and to Carlos for jumping in during my absence!

I have the following small comments outstanding:

(1) Could you please record my affiliation as "Sympotech"?  (Address, email etc 
staying the same, just s/Independent/Sympotech/).  Thank you!  


(2) Current: 

   Therefore, the networking industry has an important role to play in
   meeting sustainability goals and not just by enabling others to
   reduce their reliance on energy but by also reducing its own.  

I find the "and" that was added a bit awkward; why not make it a comma which 
more clearly separates the two aspekts (not just one, but als the other) to 
result in:

Suggested: 

   Therefore, the networking industry has an important role to play in
   meeting sustainability goals, not just by enabling others to
   reduce their reliance on energy but by also reducing its own.  

(3) Section 6.1.  We got rid of "right-placing", replacing it with "correctly 
place".  "Correct" is not the proper term here; you can place functions in ways 
that are correct but that are at the same time inefficient and suboptimal.  I 
think "correct" needs to be replaced with "smart" here. i.e.:

Current: 
Likewise, there are opportunities to correctly place functionality in
   the network for optimal effectiveness.

Suggested:

Likewise, there are opportunities to smartly place functionality in
   the network for optimal effectiveness.

(4) After the text changes, I think the 2nd paragraph in the motivation now 
sounds a bit awkward and redundant (not wrong, but can be stylistically 
improved; also this is at the very beginning of the document where we should 
perhaps word things not quite as lengthily and should come to the point).   I 
liked the original version better.  This will not be worth holding the document 
up over, but I am wondering if we could still apply some wordsmithing, perhaps: 
 

(If that throws in too much a wrench, please let me know in which case I will 
withdraw my comment as it is not worth holding the document up over)

Current: 
The science behind greenhouse gas emissions and their relationship
   with climate change is complex.  However, there is overwhelming
   scientific consensus pointing toward a clear correlation between
   climate change and a rising amount of greenhouse gases in the
   atmosphere.  When we say 'greenhouse gases' or GHG, we are referring
   to gases in the Earth's atmosphere that trap heat and contribute to
   the greenhouse effect.  They include carbon dioxide (CO2), methane
   (CH4), nitrous oxide (N2O), and fluorinated gases (as covered under
   the Kyoto Protocol and Paris Agreement).  In terms of emissions from
   human activity, the dominant greenhouse gas is CO2; consequently, it
   often becomes shorthand for "all GHGs".  However, other gases are
   also converted into "CO2-equivalents", or CO2e.  One greenhouse gas
   of particular concern, but by no means the only one, is carbon
   dioxide (CO2).  Carbon dioxide is emitted in the process of burning
   fuels to generate energy that is used, for example, to power
   electrical devices such as networking equipment.  Notable here is the
   use of fossil fuels (such as oil, which releases CO2 that had long
   been removed from the earth's atmosphere), as opposed to the use of
   renewable or sustainable fuels that do not "add" to the amount of CO2
   in the atmosphere.  There are additional gases associated with
   electricity generation, in particular methane (CH4) and nitrous oxide
   (N2O).  Although they exist in smaller quantities, they have an even
   higher Global Warming Potential (GWP).

Suggested: 

The science behind greenhouse gas emissions and their relationship
   with climate change is complex.  However, there is overwhelming
   scientific consensus pointing toward a clear correlation between
   climate change and a rising amount of greenhouse gases in the
   atmosphere.  When we say 'greenhouse gases' or GHG, we are referring
   to gases in the Earth's atmosphere that trap heat and contribute to
   the greenhouse effect.  They include carbon dioxide (CO2), methane
   (CH4), nitrous oxide (N2O), and fluorinated gases (as covered under
   the Kyoto Protocol and Paris Agreement). 
   In terms of emissions from
   human activity, the dominant greenhouse gas is carbon dioxide (CO2).  
   CO2 is emitted in the process of burning
   fuels to generate energy that is used, for example, to power
   electrical devices such as networking equipment.  Those fuels often include 
fossil fuels (such as oil), which releases 
  CO2 that had long
   been removed from the earth's atmosphere), as opposed to the use of
   renewable or sustainable fuels that do not "add" to the amount of CO2
   in the atmosphere. 
  Other GHGs such as CH4 and N2O are associated with electricity generation as 
well.  
Although they are emitted in smaller quantities, they have an even
   higher Global Warming Potential (GWP).  To facilitate accounting for them, 
they are collectively simply converted into CO2 equivalents (CO2e).  

Thanks
--- Alex

-----Original Message-----
From: Alice Russo <aru...@staff.rfc-editor.org> 
Sent: Saturday, September 6, 2025 1:31 PM
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IRSG <i...@irtf.org>; Jérôme François <jerome.franc...@uni.lu>; auth48archive 
<auth48archive@rfc-editor.org>; RFC Editor <rfc-edi...@rfc-editor.org>
Subject: Re: AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9845 <draft-irtf-nmrg-green-ps-06> for your 
review

Carlos,

Thank you for your reply. The revised files are here (please refresh):
  https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9845.html
  https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9845.txt
  https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9845.pdf
  https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9845.xml

This diff file shows all changes from the approved I-D:
  https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9845-diff.html
  https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9845-rfcdiff.html (side by side)

This diff file shows the changes made during AUTH48 thus far:
  https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9845-auth48diff.html
  https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9845-auth48rfcdiff.html (side by side)

This diff file shows only the changes since the last posted version:
  https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9845-lastrfcdiff.html

In addition to the changes you requested:
- removed extraneous 'to'.
- lowercased 'fluorinated'.
- replaced angled quotes with straight quotes per RFC style.

Re:
> After fixing these three nits, please note and write down my Approval 
> of the document at https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9845

Your approval has been recorded. We await word from your coauthors and the 
Document Shepherd before continuing the publication process.

Alice Russo
RFC Production Center

> On Sep 5, 2025, at 10:05 PM, Carlos Pignataro <cpign...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi, Alice,
> 
> I sincerely appreciate the outstanding quality of your work on this.
> 
> Here’s my responses — taking the lead as Alex is on vacation. 
> 
> 1. Correct. 
> We want the Telefonica-2020 reference removed.
> 
> 2. Let’s go with “A”.
> It is closer to the original, and also it is more descriptive using 
> “effectiveness”.
> 
> 3. Let’s leave it, please.
> Thank you for asking and for your patience with this :-) I prefer not 
> to shorten affiliation names, and use "NC State University & Blue Fern 
> Consulting"
> 
> I can see it is long, but a quick search shows similar examples:
> https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc8452.txt
> https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc9324.txt
> 
> 
> And now, doing another final pass, I noticed a couple of typos/grammos:
> 
> Section 1.2:
> “…improving the efficiency with with networks utilize power…”
> —>
> “…improving the efficiency with which networks utilize power…”
> 
> Section 6.1:
> “…for exmaple, virtualized network functions…”
> —>
> “…for example, virtualized network functions…”
> 
> Section 8:
> “…the constallation and any networking within it are powered by solar energy…”
> —>
> “…the constellation and any networking within it are powered by solar energy…”
> 
> 
> And with that, I believe we had responded to all the queries, and all the 
> issues raised had been addressed.
> 
> After fixing these three nits, please note and write down my Approval 
> of the document at https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9845
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Carlos.
> 
> 
>> On Sep 3, 2025, at 12:57 PM, Alice Russo <aru...@staff.rfc-editor.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Carlos, Alex,
>> 
>> Thank you for your replies; we have updated the document accordingly (URLs 
>> below). A few follow-ups:
>> 
>> 1) Section 1.1: The new text provided does not cite [Telefonica2020], so 
>> this reference has been removed. Please let us know if you prefer otherwise.
>> 
>> 2) Section 6.1 re:
>>> [CMP] "there are opportunities to identify the most suitable location for 
>>> functionality in the network” is the best one yet. 
>>> [CMP] But we can discuss and re-confirm. 
>> 
>> 
>> Do you prefer A or B or otherwise?
>> 
>> A) Current:
>>   Likewise, there are opportunities to correctly place functionality in
>>   the network for optimal effectiveness.
>> 
>> B) Perhaps:
>>   Likewise, there are opportunities to identify the most suitable location 
>>   for functionality in the network.
>> 
>> 
>> 3) Header: re:
>>> [CMP] Top-page: “NC State University & Blue Fern Consulting” or “NC State 
>>> University / Blue Fern Consulting"
>>> [CMP] Authos’ Addresses: “North Carolina State University & Blue Fern 
>>> Consulting”
>> 
>> The abbreviated organization appears long for the text file, i.e., it 
>> horizontally overlaps with the left side. Do you prefer to leave it or 
>> change to "NCSU & Blue Fern Consulting" or otherwise?
>> 
>> [best viewed with fixed-width font]
>> 
>> Internet Research Task Force (IRTF)                        A. Clemm, Ed.
>> Request for Comments: 9845                                   Independent
>> Category: Informational                                C. Pignataro, Ed.
>> ISSN: 2070-1721               NC State University & Blue Fern Consulting
>>                                                             C. Westphal
>>                                                                   
>> [...]
>> 
>> 
>> The revised files are here (please refresh):
>>  https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9845.html
>>  https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9845.txt
>>  https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9845.pdf
>>  https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9845.xml
>> 
>> This diff file shows all changes from the approved I-D:
>>  https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9845-diff.html
>>  https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9845-rfcdiff.html (side by 
>> side)
>> 
>> This diff file shows the changes made during AUTH48 thus far:
>>  https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9845-auth48diff.html
>>  https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9845-auth48rfcdiff.html (side 
>> by side)
>> 
>> This diff file shows only the changes since the last posted version:
>>  https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9845-lastrfcdiff.html
>> 
>> We will wait to hear from you again and from your coauthors before 
>> continuing the publication process. This page shows the AUTH48 status 
>> of your document:
>>  https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9845
>> 
>> Thank you.
>> RFC Editor/ar

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