Hi Gorry,

Thank you for your reply. We’ve formatted those notes to appear in the <aside> 
element.

The files have been posted here (please refresh):
https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9869.xml
https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9869.txt
https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9869.html
https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9869.pdf

The relevant diff files have been posted here:
https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9869-diff.html (comprehensive diff)
https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9869-auth48diff.html (AUTH48 changes)
https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9869-auth48rfcdiff.html (AUTH48 changes 
side by side)

For the AUTH48 status of this document, please see:
https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9869

Please note that we are still awaiting a response from RFC-to-be 9868 to 
address the terminology question.

Best regards,
Alanna Paloma
RFC Production Center

> On Sep 13, 2025, at 12:38 AM, Gorry Fairhurst <go...@erg.abdn.ac.uk> wrote:
> 
> On 12/09/2025 21:10, Alanna Paloma wrote:
>> Hi Gorry and Tom,
>> 
>> Thank you for your replies. We have updated as requested.
>> 
>> Please note that we have some follow-up questions/comments.
> Ah - I see I didn't understand, thanks for the clarification.
>> 
>>>> 7) <!-- [rfced] Please review whether any of the notes in this document
>>>> should be in the <aside> element. It is defined as "a container for
>>>> content that is semantically less important or tangential to the
>>>> content that surrounds it" 
>>>> (https://authors.ietf.org/en/rfcxml-vocabulary#aside).
>>>> -
>>> All extra notes/comments can all be discarded at this stage.
>> ) To clarify, would you like these notes within the document to be 
>> discarded, moved into the <aside> element, or left as is?
>> 
>> Section 3:
>>    Note: UDP allows an Upper Layer protocol to send datagrams with or
>>    without payload data (with or without UDP Options). These are
>>    delivered across the network to the remote Upper Layer. When
>>    DPLPMTUD is implemented within the UDP transport service, probe
>>    packets that include a REQ or RES UDP Option can be sent with no UDP
>>    payload. In this case, these probe packets were not generated by a
>>    sending application; therefore, the corresponding received datagrams
>>    are not delivered to the remote application.
>> 
>> Section 3.3:
>>    Note: A receiver that only responds when there is a datagram queued
>>    for transmission by the Upper Layer could potentially receive
>>    multiple datagrams with a REQ Option before it can respond. When
>>    sent, the RES Option will only acknowledge the latest received token
>>    value. A sender would then conclude that any earlier REQ Options
>>    were not successfully received. However, DPLPMTUD does not usually
>>    result in sending more than one probe packet per timeout interval,
>>    and a delay in responding will already have been treated as a failed
>>    probe attempt. Therefore, this does not significantly impact
>>    performance, although a more prompt response would have resulted in
>>    DPLPMTUD recording reception of all probe packets.
> 
> I was refering to XML comments, and made the wrong call.
> 
> These notes NEED to appear in the published RFC as notes, yes please format 
> them as aside elements.
> 
> Gorry
> 
>> 
>>>> 8) <!-- [rfced] We note that this document uses "UDP Options", while 
>>>> RFC-to-be 9868 <draft-ietf-tsvwg-udp-options> uses "UDP options" 
>>>> (lowercase). Please review and let us know if these should be made 
>>>> consistent. Perhaps lowercase for "UDP options" in general, but "Option" 
>>>> when referring to a specific option (e.g., Response (RES) Option).
>>>> 
>>>> See <https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9868.html>.
>>>> -->
>>>> 
>>> This document should be updated to become consistent with the RFC that will 
>>> define UDP options, please ammend this document to match the final format 
>>> used in the options specification.
>> 
>> ) FYI, we will hold off on making these updates until we’ve received a 
>> response from RFC-to-be 9868 regarding this terminology.
> OK
>> 
>> ---
>> The files have been posted here (please refresh):
>>  https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9869.xml
>>  https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9869.txt
>>  https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9869.html
>>  https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9869.pdf
>> 
>> The relevant diff files have been posted here:
>>  https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9869-diff.html (comprehensive diff)
>>  https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9869-auth48diff.html (AUTH48 changes)
>>  https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9869-auth48rfcdiff.html (AUTH48 
>> changes side by side)
>> 
>> 
>> Please review the document carefully and contact us with any further updates 
>> you may have.  Note that we do not make changes once a document is published 
>> as an RFC.
>> 
>> We will await approvals from each party listed on the AUTH48 status page 
>> below prior to moving this document forward in the publication process.
>> 
>> For the AUTH48 status of this document, please see:
>>  https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9869
>> 
>> Thank you,
>> Alanna Paloma
>> RFC Production Center
>> 
>>> On Sep 12, 2025, at 9:05 AM, Tom Jones <t...@erg.abdn.ac.uk> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> Please ammend the draft RFC. I plan to check the rendered document in
>>>> detail after you complete this update.
>>>> 
>>> I think Gorry and I concur on these edits, Gorry thanks for the quick reply.
>>> 
>>> - Tom


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