Hi All,

Sorry for the delay.  I approve of the changes.

Cheers,
Rick

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Karen Moore [mailto:kmo...@staff.rfc-editor.org]
> Sent: 24 March 2025 21:21
> To: Birrane, Edward J.; Erik Kline; Rick Taylor
> Cc: RFC Errata System; dtn-...@ietf.org; dtn-cha...@ietf.org;
> sburleig...@gmail.com; auth48archive
> Subject: Re: [EXT] [auth48] AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9758 <draft-ietf-dtn-ipn-
> update-14> for your review
> 
> Hi Ed and *Erik (AD),
> 
> Thank you for your reply. We have updated our files accordingly, and we have
> noted your approval of the document.
> 
> We now await approvals from Rick and Erik. Once received, we will ask IANA to
> update their registries to match the edited document.
> 
> Clarification:
> 1) Note that we updated eight instances of "2 Element ipn EID scheme-specific
> encoding” (and “3 Element...”) to “2-Element ipn EID encoding” for
> consistency (even though only 2 of those lines were over the character 
> limit). If
> that is not desired and you would like to only adjust the two lines that are 
> over
> the character limit, please let us know.
> 
> *Erik, please review the change to Section 5.6 and let us know if you approve.
> The update can be viewed below as well as in this file: https://www.rfc-
> editor.org/authors/rfc9758-auth48diff.html.
> 
> Section 5.6
> 
> Orignal:
>    It is convenient for BPv7 services that have a public specification
>    and wide adoption to be identified by a pre-agreed default Service
>    Number, so that unless extra configurations are applied, such
>    services can be sensibly assumed to be operating on the well-known
>    Service Number on a particular node.
> 
> Current:
>    It is convenient for BPv7 services that have a public specification
>    and wide adoption to be identified by a pre-agreed default Service
>    Number, so that unless overridden by explicit configuration, such
>    services can be sensibly assumed to be operating on the well-known
>    Service Number on a particular node.
> 
> 
> --FILES (please refresh)--
> The updated XML file is here:
> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9758.xml
> 
> The updated output files are here:
> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9758.txt
> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9758.pdf
> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9758.html
> 
> These diff files show all changes made during AUTH48:
> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9758-auth48diff.html
> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9758-auth48rfcdiff.html (side by side)
> 
> These diff files show only the changes made during the last edit round:
> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9758-lastdiff.html
> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9758-lastrfcdiff.html (side by side)
> 
> These diff files show all changes made to date:
> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9758-diff.html
> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9758-rfcdiff.html (side by side)
> 
> For the AUTH48 status of this document, please see:
> https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9758
> 
> Thank you!
> RFC Editor/kc
> 
> 
> > On Mar 21, 2025, at 10:25 PM, Birrane, Edward J.
> <edward.birr...@jhuapl.edu> wrote:
> >
> > Hello editors!
> >
> > I concur/approve of the changes to the document, with the following specific
> comments (pulled to the top for ease of reference):
> >
> >
> >>> #2) <!--[rfced] Edward, we understand that in other RFCs (RFCs 9171,
> >>> 9172, and 9173), your preference was to list your name as "E. Birrane, 
> >>> III"
> >>> on the first page and "Edward J. Birrane, III" in the Authors'
> >>> Addresses section. Please let us know if you would you like to do
> >>> the same in this document for consistency.
> >>> —>
> >
> > Yes, please keep my name consistent with RFC9171 (and others).
> >
> >>> #10) <!--[rfced] In Section 6.1.1 and Appendix B.2, "# 2 Element ipn
> >>> EID scheme-specific encoding" is 1 character over the 72-character
> >>> limit.  Please let us know how you would like to update the spacing
> >>> within the sourcecode figures.
> >>
> >> [RT]: @Ed, are you happy to compress "2 Element ipn EID scheme-specific
> encoding"
> >> to "2 Element ipn EID encoding" to fit?
> >
> > Yes, happy to compress this to "2 Element ipn EID encoding".
> >
> >>> #12) <!-- [rfced] In the text below, should "such as the use of"
> >>> read as "such as with the use of"?
> >>>
> >>> Original:
> >>>
> >>>   In both cases (and indeed in all bundle processing), the node that
> >>>   receives a bundle should verify its authenticity and validity
> >>>   before operating on it in any way, such as the use of BPSec
> >>>   [RFC9172], and TCPCLv4 with TLS [RFC9174].
> >>>
> >>> Perhaps:
> >>>
> >>>   In both cases (and indeed in all bundle processing), the node that
> >>>   receives a bundle should verify its authenticity and validity
> >>>   before operating on it in any way, such as with the use of BPSec
> >>>   [RFC9172] and TCP Convergence Layer version 4 (TCPCLv4) with TLS
> >>>   [RFC9174].
> >>> —>
> >>
> >> [RT]: I don't mind either way, the original is my personal preference,
> >> but the meaning is kept intact. @Ed?
> >
> > I think the proposed text "such as with the use of" is clearer and recommend
> we adopt.
> >
> > -Ed
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Karen Moore <kmo...@staff.rfc-editor.org>
> > Sent: Friday, March 21, 2025 7:42 PM
> > To: Rick Taylor <rtay...@aalyria.com>; Birrane, Edward J.
> <edward.birr...@jhuapl.edu>
> > Cc: RFC Errata System <rfc-edi...@rfc-editor.org>; dtn-...@ietf.org; dtn-
> cha...@ietf.org; sburleig...@gmail.com; Erik Kline <ek.i...@gmail.com>;
> auth48archive <auth48archive@rfc-editor.org>
> > Subject: [EXT] Re: [auth48] AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9758 <draft-ietf-dtn-ipn-
> update-14> for your review
> >
> > APL external email warning: Verify sender kmo...@staff.rfc-editor.org
> before clicking links or attachments
> >
> > Hi Rick,
> >
> > Thank you for providing the second updated XML file. The changes are now
> reflected in our files. We have also removed the linked terms (so only the
> section numbers are linked). Please review the text and let us know if any
> further changes are needed.
> >
> > We now await Ed’s reply and approval from each author prior to moving
> forward with publication.
> >
> > —FILES (please refresh)--
> > The updated XML file is here:
> > https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9758.xml
> >
> > The updated output files are here:
> > https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9758.txt
> > https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9758.pdf
> > https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9758.html
> >
> > These diff files show all changes made during AUTH48:
> > https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9758-auth48diff.html
> > https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9758-auth48rfcdiff.html (side by side)
> >
> > These diff files show only the changes made during the last edit round:
> > https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9758-lastdiff.html
> > https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9758-lastrfcdiff.html (side by side)
> >
> > These diff files show all changes made to date:
> > https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9758-diff.html
> > https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9758-rfcdiff.html (side by side)
> >
> > For the AUTH48 status of this document, please see:
> > https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9758
> >
> > Thank you!
> > RFC Editor/kc
> >
> >> On Mar 20, 2025, at 10:40 PM, Rick Taylor <rtay...@aalyria.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi Editors,
> >>
> >> I attach an updated XML with a small adjustment to table 7.   Other
> comments inline...
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >> Rick
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Rick Taylor
> >> Tech Lead Manager UK
> >>
> >> www.aalyria.com
> >>
> >>
> >> On Fri, 21 Mar 2025 at 07:24, Karen Moore <kmo...@staff.rfc-editor.org>
> wrote:
> >> Hi Rick,
> >>
> >> Thank you for your reply and the updated XML file. We have updated our
> files based on your comments; see the updated files below. We have some
> additional questions/clarifications.
> >>
> >> 1) Note that we removed the section titles that were linked (currently, 
> >> only
> the section numbers are linked). We left instances where a term and the
> section number were both linked as is. Please review and let us know if this 
> is
> agreeable or if you would like to also remove the linked terms and have only
> the section numbers linked.
> >>
> >> This is fine by me.  The previous long form was an artefact of the markdown
> tools we have used.
> >>
> >>
> >> 2) We added a hyphen to ‘ipn’ as follows; please review the text and let us
> know if any further changes are needed.
> >>
> >>  ipn URI scheme  -> ‘ipn’ URI scheme (throughout the text)
> >>  ipn scheme URIs -> 'ipn' scheme URIs (8 instances)
> >>  ipn scheme -> 'ipn' scheme (3 instances: Sections 7.1, 8.3, and 9)
> >>
> >> Note that we updated “IPN URI scheme” to "‘ipn’ URI scheme" in the
> examples in Sections 6.1.1 and 6.1.2 and Appendices B.1, B.2, and B.3. Please
> let us know if that is not correct.
> >>
> >> This all looks correct, and I assume you mean you added single quotes.
> >>
> >>
> >> 3) Regarding the question below, we did not make any changes as we
> believe your comment meant the current text is agreeable. If any changes are
> needed, please let us know.
> >>
> >>> f.) In Tables 2, 4, 6, and 7, we assume that ">= 2^32" is the same
> >>> as ">=0x100000000" in the IANA registries. Are any changes desired
> >>> in the document to make this consistent with the IANA registries, or
> >>> will this variance be clear to readers?
> >>>
> >>> [RT]: We hope this is clear to readers.  Happy with the change
> >>
> >> No further changes required.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> 4) FYI:  In Appendices B1, B2, and B3, we added a hyphen to a few instances
> of “2 Element” and “3 Element” for consistency.
> >>
> >> Perfect
> >>
> >>
> >> 5) FYI: We didn’t make any changes to the use of “<tt>” in the document. If
> any changes are desired, please let us know.
> >>
> >> I spotted one correction which I have made in the attached XML.
> >>
> >>
> >> 6) We will await a reply from Ed for the following three questions:
> >>
> >>> #2) <!--[rfced] Edward, we understand that in other RFCs (RFCs 9171,
> >>> 9172, and 9173), your preference was to list your name as "E. Birrane, 
> >>> III"
> >>> on the first page and "Edward J. Birrane, III" in the Authors'
> >>> Addresses section. Please let us know if you would you like to do
> >>> the same in this document for consistency.
> >>> —>
> >>
> >> ...
> >>> #10) <!--[rfced] In Section 6.1.1 and Appendix B.2, "# 2 Element ipn
> >>> EID scheme-specific encoding" is 1 character over the 72-character
> >>> limit.  Please let us know how you would like to update the spacing
> >>> within the sourcecode figures.
> >>>
> >>> Current
> >>> Section 6.1.1:
> >>>   82                        # 2-Element Endpoint Encoding
> >>>      02                     # uri-code: 2 (IPN URI scheme)
> >>>      82                     # 2 Element ipn EID scheme-specific encoding
> >>>         1B 000EE86800000064 # Fully-Qualified Node Number
> >>>         01                  # Service Number
> >>>
> >>> Appendix B.1:
> >>>   82                        # 2-Element Endpoint Encoding
> >>>      02                     # uri-code: 2 (IPN URI scheme)
> >>>      82                     # 2 Element ipn EID scheme-specific encoding
> >>>         1B 000EE86800000001 # Fully-Qualified Node Number
> >>>         01                  # Service Number
> >>> —>
> >>
> >> [RT]: @Ed, are you happy to compress "2 Element ipn EID scheme-specific
> encoding"
> >> to "2 Element ipn EID encoding" to fit?
> >>
> >> ...
> >>> #12) <!-- [rfced] In the text below, should "such as the use of"
> >>> read as "such as with the use of"?
> >>>
> >>> Original:
> >>>
> >>>   In both cases (and indeed in all bundle processing), the node that
> >>>   receives a bundle should verify its authenticity and validity
> >>>   before operating on it in any way, such as the use of BPSec
> >>>   [RFC9172], and TCPCLv4 with TLS [RFC9174].
> >>>
> >>> Perhaps:
> >>>
> >>>   In both cases (and indeed in all bundle processing), the node that
> >>>   receives a bundle should verify its authenticity and validity
> >>>   before operating on it in any way, such as with the use of BPSec
> >>>   [RFC9172] and TCP Convergence Layer version 4 (TCPCLv4) with TLS
> >>>   [RFC9174].
> >>> —>
> >>
> >> [RT]: I don't mind either way, the original is my personal preference,
> >> but the meaning is kept intact. @Ed?
> >> ...
> >>
> >> --FILES--
> >> The updated XML file is here:
> >> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9758.xml
> >>
> >> The updated output files are here:
> >> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9758.txt
> >> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9758.pdf
> >> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9758.html
> >>
> >> These diff files show all changes made during AUTH48:
> >> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9758-auth48diff.html
> >> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9758-auth48rfcdiff.html (side
> >> by side)
> >>
> >> These diff files show all changes made to date:
> >> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9758-diff.html
> >> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9758-rfcdiff.html (side by
> >> side)
> >>
> >> Note that it may be necessary for you to refresh your browser to view the
> most recent version. Please review the document carefully to ensure
> satisfaction as we do not make changes once it has been published as an RFC.
> >>
> >> Please contact us with any further updates or with your approval of the
> document in its current form.  We will await approvals from each author prior
> to moving forward in the publication process.
> >>
> >> For the AUTH48 status of this document, please see:
> >> https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9758
> >>
> >> Best regards,
> >> RFC Editor/kc
> >>
> >>> On Mar 19, 2025, at 9:23 PM, Rick Taylor via auth48archive
> <auth48archive@rfc-editor.org> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hi Editors,
> >>>
> >>> Firstly thank you so much for the editorial pass, it greatly improves
> readability, and I appreciate the hard work.
> >>>
> >>> I attach an updated XML file with 3 minor proposed changes, and I'll
> >>> reply to questions inline below.Cheers, Rick
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, 20 Mar 2025 at 08:24, <rfc-edi...@rfc-editor.org> wrote:
> >>> Authors,
> >>>
> >>> While reviewing this document during AUTH48, please resolve (as
> necessary) the following questions, which are also in the XML file.
> >>>
> >>> 1) <!--[rfced] To more closely match the document title, we updated
> >>> the short title that spans the header of the PDF file as follows. Please 
> >>> let us
> know of any objections.
> >>>
> >>> Original:
> >>>
> >>>   ipn-updates
> >>>
> >>> Current:
> >>>
> >>>   ipn Updates
> >>>
> >>> -->
> >>>
> >>> Perhaps ipn Update (singular)?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> 2) <!--[rfced] Edward, we understand that in other RFCs (RFCs 9171,
> >>> 9172, and 9173), your preference was to list your name as "E. Birrane, 
> >>> III"
> >>> on the first page and "Edward J. Birrane, III" in the Authors'
> >>> Addresses section. Please let us know if you would you like to do
> >>> the same in this document for consistency.
> >>>
> >>> -->
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> 3) <!-- [rfced] Throughout the document, specific terms and section
> >>> titles are linked/referenced. To help the reader differentiate
> >>> between the two, we added quote marks to the section titles;
> >>> however, please consider if removing the section titles and
> >>> providing links to the section numbers only would be helpful for
> >>> ease of reading and to avoid any confusion. For example:
> >>>
> >>> Current (with terms and section titles/numbers linked):
> >>>
> >>>   Both LocalNode (Section 3.4.2) and Private Use (Section 3.4.3) ipn
> >>>   URIs present a risk to the stability of deployed BPv7 networks...
> >>>
> >>>   See "LocalNode ipn EIDs" (Section 5.4) and "Private Use ipn EIDs"
> >>>   (Section 5.5) for required behaviors to mitigate against this form of
> >>>   abuse.
> >>>
> >>> Perhaps (with terms and section numbers linked):
> >>>
> >>>   Both LocalNode (Section 3.4.2) and Private Use (Section 3.4.3) ipn
> >>>   URIs present a risk to the stability of deployed BPv7 networks...
> >>>
> >>>   See Sections 5.4 and 5.5 for required behaviors to mitigate against
> >>>   this form of abuse.
> >>>
> >>> -->
> >>>
> >>> This is an artefact of the markdown tooling we have used, I think the
> proposed change is good.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> 4) <!-- [rfced] FYI - For readability, we have updated the text
> >>> below as a bulleted list. Please review and let us know any objections.
> >>>
> >>> Original:
> >>>
> >>>  Specifically, this document
> >>>  introduces a hierarchical structure for the assignment of ipn scheme
> >>>  URIs, clarifies the behavior and interpretation of ipn scheme URIs,
> >>>  defines efficient encodings of ipn scheme URIs, and updates/defines
> >>>  the registries associated for this scheme.
> >>>
> >>> Current:
> >>>
> >>>   Specifically, this document:
> >>>
> >>>   *  introduces a hierarchical structure for the assignment of ipn
> >>>      scheme URIs,
> >>>
> >>>   *  clarifies the behavior and interpretation of ipn scheme URIs,
> >>>
> >>>   *  defines efficient encodings of ipn scheme URIs, and
> >>>
> >>>   *  updates/defines the registries associated with this scheme.
> >>>
> >>> -->
> >>>
> >>> I think this improves readability, so I'm happy.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> 5) <!-- [rfced] Is "range" meant to be singular (option A) or plural
> >>> (option B) in the text below?
> >>>
> >>> Original:
> >>>
> >>>   If a system does not require interoperable deployment of ipn scheme
> >>>   URIs, then the Private Use Node Numbers (Section 3.4.3) range,
> >>>   reserved by the Default Allocator (Section 3.2.2) for this purpose,
> >>>   are to be used.
> >>>
> >>> Perhaps A:
> >>>
> >>>   If a system does not require interoperable deployment of ipn scheme
> >>>   URIs, then the Private Use Node Numbers (Section 3.4.3) range,
> >>>   reserved by the Default Allocator (Section 3.2.2) for this purpose,
> >>>   is to be used.
> >>>
> >>> or
> >>>
> >>> Perhaps B:
> >>>
> >>>   If a system does not require interoperable deployment of ipn scheme
> >>>   URIs, then a range of Private Use Node Numbers (Section 3.4.3),
> >>>   reserved by the Default Allocator (Section 3.2.2) for this purpose,
> >>>   are to be used.
> >>> -->
> >>>
> >>> As a native British english speaker, I prefer (A).
> >>>
> >>> 6) <!-- [rfced] For ease of the reader, we have broken up the text
> >>> below. Please review.
> >>>
> >>> Original:
> >>>
> >>>   Rather than assigning unique Allocator Identifiers to each sub-
> >>>   organization on a first-come first-served basis, there are
> >>>   operational benefits in assigning Allocator Identifiers to such an
> >>>   organization in a structured way so that an external observer can
> >>>   detect that a group of Allocator Identifiers are organizationally
> >>>   associated.
> >>>
> >>> Current:
> >>>
> >>>   Rather than assigning unique Allocator Identifiers to each sub-
> >>>   organization on a first-come, first-served basis, there are operational
> >>>   benefits in assigning Allocator Identifiers to such an organization in a
> >>>   structured way. This allows an external observer to detect
> >>>   that a group of Allocator Identifiers is organizationally associated.
> >>>
> >>> -->
> >>>
> >>> Yes, much better
> >>>
> >>> 7) <!--[rfced] FYI - In all of the tables, we have aligned the
> >>> content to the left (instead of centering some columns) for
> >>> consistency and easy reading. If this is not preferred, please let us 
> >>> know.
> >>>
> >>> -->
> >>> I didn't really notice the difference, so obviously an improvement.
> Consistency with the RFC editorial style is what we are aiming for.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> 8) <!-- [rfced] May we clarify what specifications the following
> >>> text refers to and also rework the last sentence to make clear that
> >>> an RFC (rather than a
> >>> protocol) defines this registry?
> >>>
> >>> Original:
> >>>
> >>>   The IRTF BPv6 experimental specification termed the logical source or
> >>>   destination of a bundle as an "Endpoint" identified by an "Endpoint
> >>>   Identifier" (EID). BPv6 EIDs are formatted as URIs.  This definition and
> >>>   representation of EIDs was carried forward from the IRTF BPv6
> specification
> >>>   to the IETF BPv7 specification.  BPv7 additionally defined an IANA 
> >>> registry
> >>>   called the "Bundle Protocol URI Scheme Types" registry...
> >>>
> >>> Perhaps:
> >>>
> >>>   The IRTF BPv6 experimental specification [RFC5050] termed the logical
> >>>   source or destination of a bundle as an "Endpoint" identified by an
> >>>   "Endpoint Identifier" (EID). BPv6 EIDs are formatted as URIs.  This
> >>>   definition and representation of EIDs was carried forward from the IRTF
> >>>   BPv6 specification [RFC5050] to the IETF BPv7 specification [RFC9171].
> >>>   [RFC9171] additionally defined an IANA registry called the "Bundle
> Protocol
> >>>   URI Scheme Types" registry...
> >>>
> >>> -->
> >>> Yes that makes more sense.  I think we originally were worried of
> >>> having too many references, but this is definitely clearer.  The
> >>> situation is currently a mess, and this doc is trying to clear it up
> >>> ;)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> 9) <!-- [rfced] In the instances below, does "security source" read
> >>> as redundant after "Bundle Protocol Security"?
> >>>
> >>> Original:
> >>>
> >>>   For example, a LocalNode ipn EID MUST NOT be used as a Bundle
> >>>   Protocol Security [RFC9172] security source for a bundle
> >>>   transmitted from the local bundle node, because such a source EID
> >>>   would have no meaning at a downstream bundle node.
> >>>
> >>>   For example, a Private Use ipn EID MUST NOT be used as a Bundle
> Protocol
> >>>   Security [RFC9172] security source for a bundle, when the bundle is
> >>>   destined for a different administrative domain.
> >>>
> >>> Perhaps:
> >>>
> >>>   For example, a LocalNode ipn EID MUST NOT be used as a
> >>>   source of Bundle Protocol Security (BPSec) [RFC9172] for a bundle
> >>>   transmitted from the local bundle node, because such a source EID
> >>>   would have no meaning at a downstream bundle node.
> >>>
> >>>   For example, a Private Use ipn EID MUST NOT be used as a source of
> >>>   BPSec [RFC9172] for a bundle when the bundle is destined for a
> >>>   different administrative domain.
> >>>
> >>> -->
> >>> No, please keep the original.  A "Security Source" is a very
> >>> specific field in BPSec, so although the "Bundle Protocol Security
> >>> Security Source" sounds wrong, it's actually accurate
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> 10) <!--[rfced] In Section 6.1.1 and Appendix B.2, "# 2 Element ipn
> >>> EID scheme-specific encoding" is 1 character over the 72-character
> >>> limit.  Please let us know how you would like to update the spacing
> >>> within the sourcecode figures.
> >>>
> >>> Current
> >>> Section 6.1.1:
> >>>   82                        # 2-Element Endpoint Encoding
> >>>      02                     # uri-code: 2 (IPN URI scheme)
> >>>      82                     # 2 Element ipn EID scheme-specific encoding
> >>>         1B 000EE86800000064 # Fully-Qualified Node Number
> >>>         01                  # Service Number
> >>>
> >>> Appendix B.1:
> >>>   82                        # 2-Element Endpoint Encoding
> >>>      02                     # uri-code: 2 (IPN URI scheme)
> >>>      82                     # 2 Element ipn EID scheme-specific encoding
> >>>         1B 000EE86800000001 # Fully-Qualified Node Number
> >>>         01                  # Service Number
> >>>
> >>> -->
> >>>
> >>> @Ed:  Are you happy to compress "2 Element ipn EID scheme-specific
> encoding" to "2 Element ipn EID encoding" to fit?
> >>>
> >>> 11) <!-- [rfced] FYI - We have adjusted the text below to read as a
> >>> numbered list. Please review and let us know any objections.
> >>>
> >>> Original:
> >>>
> >>>   In the three-element scheme-specific encoding of an ipn EID, the
> >>>   first element of the array is the Allocator Identifier, the second
> >>>   element of the array is the Node Number, and the third element of the
> >>>   array is the Service Number.
> >>>
> >>> Current:
> >>>
> >>>   In the three-element scheme-specific encoding of an ipn EID:
> >>>
> >>>   1.  the first element of the array is the Allocator Identifier,
> >>>
> >>>   2.  the second element of the array is the Node Number, and
> >>>
> >>>   3.  the third element of the array is the Service Number.
> >>>
> >>> -->
> >>> I like a numbered list.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> 12) <!-- [rfced] In the text below, should "such as the use of" read
> >>> as "such as with the use of"?
> >>>
> >>> Original:
> >>>
> >>>   In both cases (and indeed in all bundle processing), the node that
> >>>   receives a bundle should verify its authenticity and validity
> >>>   before operating on it in any way, such as the use of BPSec
> >>>   [RFC9172], and TCPCLv4 with TLS [RFC9174].
> >>>
> >>> Perhaps:
> >>>
> >>>   In both cases (and indeed in all bundle processing), the node that
> >>>   receives a bundle should verify its authenticity and validity
> >>>   before operating on it in any way, such as with the use of BPSec
> >>>   [RFC9172] and TCP Convergence Layer version 4 (TCPCLv4) with TLS
> >>>   [RFC9174].
> >>>
> >>> -->
> >>> I don't mind either way, the original is my personal preference, but the
> meaning is kept intact. @Ed?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> 13) <!-- [rfced] We have included some specific questions about the
> >>> IANA text below. In addition to responding to those questions,
> >>> please review all of the IANA-related updates carefully and let us
> >>> know if any further updates are needed. Note that the registries can
> >>> be viewed at <https://www.iana.org/assignments/uri-schemes/>.
> >>>
> >>> a.) We note different capitalization and use of quotation marks
> >>> around "Private Use" in the running text. We have removed the quote
> >>> marks for consistency as the policies of RFC 8126 usually appear as
> >>> uppercase without quote marks.
> >>>
> >>> Perfect, let's use the correct way of using the words.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> b.) The registration procedures in Table 4 do not match the
> >>> registration procedures for the "'ipn' Scheme URI Default Allocator Node
> Numbers"
> >>> registry. We updated the reference entries accordingly (see Tables 4 and
> 5).
> >>> Please review and let us know if any further changes are needed.
> >>>
> >>> I think Table 4 and 5 are an improvement, but I would drop the duplicate
> "Invalid" final row from Table 5.
> >>>
> >>> c.) FYI: We have made "Well-Known" uppercase in the "'ipn' Scheme
> >>> URI Well-Known Service Numbers for BPv7" registry name, and we will
> >>> ask IANA to make this change prior to publication.
> >>>
> >>> Fine by me
> >>>
> >>> d.) We updated Tables 6 and 7 to match the "'ipn' Scheme URI
> >>> Well-Known Service Numbers for BPv7" registry. Please let us know if
> >>> any further changes are needed.
> >>>
> >>> I'm not sure I like the duplication of the "Reserved for..." entries in 
> >>> Table 7.
> If the entries are reserved in table 6, why are they 'initial' in Table 7?
> >>>
> >>> e.) In Tables 2, 4, and 6, we updated "Registration Policy" to
> >>> "Registration Procedures" in the column headings to match the
> >>> respective IANA registries. In the running text, may we update
> >>> instances of "registration policies" to "registration procedures"
> >>> for consistency?
> >>>
> >>> Fine by me
> >>>
> >>> f.) In Tables 2, 4, 6, and 7, we assume that ">= 2^32" is the same
> >>> as ">=0x100000000" in the IANA registries. Are any changes desired
> >>> in the document to make this consistent with the IANA registries, or
> >>> will this variance be clear to readers?
> >>>
> >>> We hope this is clear to readers.  Happy with the change
> >>>
> >>> i.) We note the following variances in the IANA registries. Should
> >>> these be made consistent by replacing "greater than" with ">="?
> >>>
> >>> In the "'ipn' Scheme URI Allocator Identifiers" and "'ipn' Scheme
> >>> URI  Default Allocator Node Numbers" registries:
> >>>
> >>>    ">=0x100000000"
> >>>
> >>> In the "'ipn' Scheme URI Well-Known Service Numbers for BPv7"
> >>> registry:
> >>>
> >>>    "greater than 0x100000000"
> >>>
> >>> Happy with >= instead of "greathan or equal to".
> >>>
> >>> ii.) FYI: In Table 5, we replaced ">= 2^32" with ">=4294967296"
> >>> ("Invalid") to match the "'ipn' Scheme URI Default Allocator Node
> >>> Numbers" registry. Please let us know if this is not correct
> >>>
> >>> It's correct, but 2^32 might be easier on the eye than the very long 
> >>> string
> of digits.
> >>> .
> >>>
> >>> -->
> >>>
> >>>
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> >>>
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> side-note.
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> >>> regarding the terminology used in this document:
> >>>
> >>> a.) In the RFC series, "Fully Qualified Domain Name (FQDN)"
> >>> typically appears as uppercase without a hyphen. Would you like to
> >>> remove the hyphen from the expansion of "Fully-Qualified Node Number"
> for consistency with the series?
> >>>
> >>> My only preference is consistency.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Additionally, after the first expansion of "FQNN", may we replace
> >>> instances of "Fully-Qualified Node Number" with the acronym (per
> >>> guidance in "Web Portion of the Style Guide" at
> >>> <https://www.rfc-editor.org/styleguide/part2/#exp_abbrev>)?
> >>>
> >>> Yes, if it meets the guidelines, please do.
> >>>
> >>> b.) We note some variances with the terms below in the example
> >>> schemes. Should any of the occurrences in the example schemes be
> >>> updated for consistency (hyphen or no hyphen)?
> >>>
> >>>  2 Element vs. 2-Element vs.
> >>>  3 Element
> >>>
> >>> One example (Appendix B.1):
> >>>
> >>>   82                # 2-Element Endpoint Encoding
> >>>      02             # uri-code: 2 (IPN URI scheme)
> >>>      83             # 3 Element ipn EID scheme-specific encoding
> >>>         1A 000EE868 # Allocator Identifier
> >>>         01          # Node Number
> >>>         01          # Service Number
> >>>
> >>> Yes they should.
> >>>
> >>> b.) We note different capitalization and quotation marks for 'null'
> >>> and Null in the instances below. Please let us know if/how may we
> >>> update for consistency.
> >>>
> >>>  Null ipn URI (term in IANA registry)
> >>>  5.2.  The Null Endpoint
> >>>  B.3.  The 'null' Endpoint
> >>>
> >>>  'null' ipn URI
> >>>  'null' ipn EID
> >>>  'null' endpoint
> >>>  'null' EID
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Given the IANA registry precedent, and my preference, I think Null is
> better than 'null'.
> >>>
> >>> c.) Would you like either double (") or single (') quotes to appear
> >>> around ipn scheme? We note different usage across RFCs.
> >>>
> >>> As used in this document:
> >>> ipn URI scheme
> >>>
> >>> As used in the IANA registry names:
> >>> 'ipn' scheme
> >>>
> >>> Usage from RFC 6260:
> >>> the "ipn" scheme
> >>>
> >>> Usage from RFC 7116:
> >>> 'ipn' URI scheme
> >>>
> >>> Let's use the single quotes, if that's the usual way of referring to a URI
> scheme in an RFC.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> d.) We note different formatting of "0" as seen below. For
> >>> consistency with the rest of this document, should any of these
> >>> instances be updated to "zero (0)" and should the <tt> tags be
> >>> removed? (We note that "Default Allocator" has a value of "0" in the
> >>> "'ipn' Scheme URI Allocator Identifiers" registry.)
> >>>
> >>>   ... the least-significant N bits of the first Allocator Identifier MUST
> >>>   be all 0.
> >>>
> >>> Correct
> >>>
> >>>   ... a range of bit-length 0
> >>>
> >>> Correct
> >>>
> >>>   All leading <tt>0</tt> characters MUST be omitted. A single '<tt>0</tt>'
> >>>   is valid.
> >>>
> >>> Correct
> >>>
> >>>   Consider the ipn URI identifying Service Number 2 on Node Number 1
> >>>   allocated by the Default Allocator (0) (Section 3.2.2).
> >>>
> >>> Correct
> >>>
> >>>   Consider the ipn EID ipn:1.1.  This textual representation of an ipn
> >>>   EID identifies Service Number 1 on Node Number 1 allocated by the
> >>>   Default Allocator (0) (Section 3.2.2).
> >>>
> >>> This should be <tt>ipn:1.1</tt>, but the other uses are correct.
> >>>
> >>> We have attempted to differentiate between the number 0 and the
> explicit ASCII character 0, and this is important when talking about textual
> representation vs a numeric value or count.  When dealing with a 'count' then
> "... zero (0) ..." seems the correct usage, unless it results in multiple 
> nested
> parantheses, in which case "(0)" seems best.  When dealing with a numeric
> value, 0 seems correct, when dealing with the character or sequence of
> characters <tt> is correct.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> e.) Because CBOR expands to Concise Binary Object Representation
> >>> (CBOR), would "CBOR representation" be redundant in the instances
> below?
> >>>
> >>>   6.   CBOR representation of ipn URIs with BPv7 . . . . . . . .  15
> >>>   7.2. CBOR Representation Interoperability  . . . . . . . . . .  19
> >>>   CBOR representation (2 instances in the running text)
> >>>
> >>> No please leave as is.  "CBOR representation"  is the common usage,
> despite the odd expansion.
> >>>
> >>> f.) FYI - We have added expansions for abbreviations upon first use
> >>> per Section 3.6 of RFC 7322 ("RFC Style Guide"). Please review each
> >>> expansion in the document carefully to ensure correctness.
> >>>
> >>>  Concise Binary Object Representation (CBOR)
> >>>  TCP Convergence Layer version 4 (TCPCLv4)
> >>>
> >>> Perfect, they got missed in our paragraph shuffling.
> >>>
> >>> -->
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> 17) <!-- [rfced] Please review the "Inclusive Language" portion of
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> >>> <https://www.rfc-editor.org/styleguide/part2/#inclusive_language>
> >>> and let us know if any changes are needed.  Updates of this nature
> >>> typically result in more precise language, which is helpful for readers.
> >>>
> >>> Note that our script did not flag any words in particular, but this
> >>> should still be reviewed as a best practice. -->
> >>>
> >>> Excellent, we tried to be inclusive.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Thank you.
> >>>
> >>> RFC Editor/kf/kc
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Mar 19, 2025, at 6:20 PM, RFC Editor via auth48archive
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> >>> --------------------------------------
> >>> RFC9758 (draft-ietf-dtn-ipn-update-14)
> >>>
> >>> Title            : Update to the ipn URI scheme
> >>> Author(s)        : R. Taylor, E. Birrane
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