Authors,

While reviewing this document during AUTH48, please resolve (as necessary) the 
following questions, which are also in the XML file.

1) <!--[rfced] This document has been assigned a new BCP number. Please 
let us know if this is not correct (i.e., it should be part of an existing 
BCP).  

See the complete list of BCPs here: https://www.rfc-editor.org/bcps
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2) <!-- [rfced] Please insert any keywords (beyond those that appear in
the title) for use on https://www.rfc-editor.org/search. -->


3) <!--[rfced] FYI, this sentence has been updated as follows for clarity.
Please review whether these terms convey the same meaning:
"Manufacturer Usage Description (MUD) definitions"
replaced with "Manufacturer Usage Descriptions (MUDs)" (plural).
We note the plural is used in the abstract of RFC 8520.

Original:
   These concerns become
   acute as network operators begin deploying RFC 8520 Manufacturer
   Usage Description (MUD) definitions to control device access.

Current:
   These concerns become
   acute as network operators begin deploying Manufacturer
   Usage Descriptions (MUDs), as specified in RFC 8520, to control 
   device access.
-->


4) <!--[rfced] Please clarify "a specific purpose device".
This term has not been used in past documents;
perhaps it is in contrast to "a general-purpose device", a term
used in RFC 8520. May it be rephrased as below, or
does it mean the same as "a single-purpose device"?

Original:
   [RFC8520] provides a standardized way to describe how a specific
   purpose device makes use of Internet resources.

Perhaps:
   [RFC8520] provides a standardized way to describe how a device
   for a specific purpose makes use of Internet resources.
-->


5) <!--[rfced] Please clarify "with MUD supporting IoT devices".
Does it mean (A) "with IoT devices that support MUD"
or (B) "with MUD to support IoT devices" or otherwise?

Original:
   The core of this document, is Section 6, which makes a series of
   recommendations ("best current practices") for manufacturers on how
   to use DNS and IP addresses with MUD supporting IoT devices.

Perhaps (if A):
   The core of this document is Section 6, which makes a series of
   recommendations ("best current practices") for manufacturers on how
   to use DNS and IP addresses with IoT devices that support MUD.
-->


6) <!--[rfced] May this be rephrased for simplicity?

Original:
   The simplest successful strategy for translating DNS names for a MUD
   controller to take is to do a DNS lookup on the name ...

Perhaps:
   The simplest successful strategy for a MUD controller
   to translate DNS names is to do a DNS lookup on the name ...
-->


7) <!--[rfced] Please review; does the updated sentence convey the intended
meaning? It has been rephrased to avoid the use of two "but" phrases
in a row. (Also, "literate" was changed to "literal".)

Original:
   An update
   server might believe that if the connection was on IPv4, that an IPv4
   literate would be acceptable, but due to NAT64 [RFC6146] a device
   with only IPv6 connectivity will often be able to reach an IPv4
   firmware update server by name (through DNS64 [RFC6147]), but not be
   able to reach arbitrary IPv4 address.

Current:
   An update
   server might believe that if the connection were on IPv4, then an IPv4
   literal would be acceptable.  However, due to NAT64 [RFC6146], a
   device with only IPv6 connectivity will often be able to reach an
   IPv4 firmware update server by name (through DNS64 [RFC6147]) but not
   be able to reach an arbitrary IPv4 address.
-->


8) <!--[rfced] May we change "A MUD file definition" to simply "A MUD file"?
We see zero usage of "MUD file definition" in RFC 8520 or other RFCs.

Original:
  A MUD file definition for this access would need to resolve ...

Original:
  A MUD file for this access would need to resolve ...
-->


9) <!--[rfced] Should "CDN vendor's DNS" be "CDN provider's DNS" here, 
because that phrase is used earlier within this section?
(Note: The apostrophe was added because it seems possessive was intended.)

Original:  the CDN vendors DNS will do all the appropriate work
Current:   the CDN vendor's DNS will do all the appropriate work
Perhaps:   the CDN provider's DNS will do all the appropriate work
-->


10) <!--[rfced] May "now" be removed from these two sentences,
or do you want to use a different phrase? (The preceding sentence is 
included for context.)

Original:
   There are currently tools that help with the definition and
   analysis of MUD files, see [mudmaker].  The remaining difficulty is
   now the actual list of expected connections to put in the MUD file.
   An IoT manufacturer must now spend some time reviewing the network
   communications by their device.

Perhaps (if removing two instances of "now"):
   There are currently tools that help with the definition and
   analysis of MUD files; see [mudmaker].  The remaining difficulty is
   the actual list of expected connections to put in the MUD file.
   An IoT manufacturer must spend some time reviewing the network
   communications by their device.
-->


11) <!--[rfced] FYI, this sentence has been updated to use singular "resolver"
and "destination". Please let us know if that was not the intention.

Original:
   Finally, if a device will ever attempt to use a non-local resolvers,
   then the address of that resolver needs to be listed in the MUD file
   as destinations that are to be permitted.

Current:
   Finally, if a device will ever attempt to use a non-local resolver,
   then the address of that resolver needs to be listed in the MUD file
   as a destination that is to be permitted.
-->


12) <!-- [rfced] FYI, for the references to Wikipedia pages - [AmazonS3], 
[Akamai]
[boywhocriedwolf] - we have updated the data to the most current revision
and updated the URL to the date-specific URL. Please let us know if you
prefer otherwise.
-->


13) <!--[rfced] Please clarify "the Editors' copy of internet drafts". 
What is this referring to? If this is referring to I-Ds created 
using the i-d template build system, then perhaps "including the 
Editors' copies of some Internet-Drafts that are stored on GitHub".

Original:
   For instance, github.io, which is used for hosted
   content, including the Editors' copy of internet drafts stored on
   github, does not actually publish any DNS names.

Current:
   For instance, github.io, which is used for hosted
   content, including the Editors' copy of Internet-Drafts stored on
   GitHub, does not actually publish any DNS names.
-->


14) <!-- [rfced] We see some inconsistencies with the following terms. Please
review and let us know if any updates are needed.

   edns-client-subnet (ECS) EDNS0 option
   edns-client-subnet option
   edns-client-server 
   EDNS0
-->


15) <!-- [rfced] FYI - we added expansions to the following acronyms. Please
verify that these are correct.

   DNS-SD: DNS-based Service Discovery
   mDNS: Multicast DNS
   CPE: Customer Premises Equipment 
-->


16) <!-- [rfced] Please review the "Inclusive Language" portion of the online 
Style Guide <https://www.rfc-editor.org/styleguide/part2/#inclusive_language>
and let us know if any changes are needed.  Updates of this nature typically
result in more precise language, which is helpful for readers.

Note that our script did not flag any words in particular, but this should 
still be reviewed as a best practice.
-->


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RFC9726 (draft-ietf-opsawg-mud-iot-dns-considerations-19)

Title            : Operational Considerations for Use of DNS in Internet of 
Things (IoT) Devices
Author(s)        : M. Richardson, W. Pan
WG Chair(s)      : Henk Birkholz, Joe Clarke
Area Director(s) : Mahesh Jethanandani, Mohamed Boucadair

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