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While reviewing this document during AUTH48 
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1) <!-- [rfced] Please insert any keywords (beyond those that appear in
the title) for use on https://www.rfc-editor.org/search. -->


2) <!-- [rfced] Because this document updates RFC 5880, please
review the errata reported for RFC 5880 
(https://www.rfc-editor.org/errata/rfc5880).
Please let us know if you agree that none of them are 
relevant to the content of this document.
-->


3) <!--[rfced] Please clarify this sentence, especially "from its own
standpoint". Is this about the local end's standpoint?

Original:
   The local end as an initiator may regard
   the Unaffiliated BFD Echo session as a BFD session from its own
   standpoint.

Perhaps:
   From the standpoint of the local end (as an initiator),
   the Unaffiliated BFD Echo session may be regarded as a BFD session.

Or:
   The local end (with the viewpoint of the initiator) may regard 
   the Unaffiliated BFD Echo session as a BFD session.
-->


4) <!--[rfced] May we update this sentence to two sentences as follows 
for clarity?  Specifically, the updates are assuming:
- the "once" phrase applies to the latter part.
- "is conformed to" means "conforms to".

Original:
   Unaffiliated BFD Echo
   packets with zeroed "Your Discriminator" field are demultiplexed to
   the proper session based on the source IP address or UDP source port,
   once the remote system loops back the local discriminator, all
   further received packets are demultiplexed based on the "Your                
      
   Discriminator" field only, which is conformed to the procedure
   specified in Section 6.3 of [RFC5880].

Perhaps:
   Unaffiliated BFD Echo
   packets with zeroed "Your Discriminator" field are demultiplexed to
   the proper session based on the source IP address or UDP source port.
   After the remote system loops back the local discriminator, all
   further received packets are demultiplexed based on the "Your                
      
   Discriminator" field only, which conforms to the procedure
   specified in Section 6.3 of [RFC5880].
-->


5) <!--[rfced] We note that quotation marks are not used around the 
field names in RFC 5880. Do you want to keep the quotation marks 
within this document?

Current: 
   "Your Discriminator" field
   "Desired Min TX Interval" [field]
   "Required Min RX Interval" field
   "Required Min Echo RX Interval" field
-->


6) <!--[rfced] Regarding the updates to Section 6.8.9 of RFC 5880
a) Because these are two contiguous paragraphs in RFC 5880, we suggest
they be together rather than separate. Is this acceptable?
b) Because "except as follows" conveys meaning to the reader (i.e., they
need to read the subsequent text in RFC 5880), we suggest including it in
the OLD and NEW TEXT.

Suggested:
   The 1st and 2nd paragraphs of Section 6.8.9 of [RFC5880] are updated
   as below:

   OLD TEXT

   |  BFD Echo packets MUST NOT be transmitted when bfd.SessionState is
   |  not Up.  BFD Echo packets MUST NOT be transmitted unless the last
   |  BFD Control packet received from the remote system contains a
   |  nonzero value in Required Min Echo RX Interval.
   |
   |  BFD Echo packets MAY be transmitted when bfd.SessionState is Up.
   |  The interval between transmitted BFD Echo packets MUST NOT be less
   |  than the value advertised by the remote system in Required Min
   |  Echo RX Interval, except as follows: [...]

   NEW TEXT

   |  When a system is using the Echo function with either Asynchronous
   |  or Demand mode, BFD Echo packets MUST NOT be transmitted when
   |  bfd.SessionState is not Up, and BFD Echo packets MUST NOT be
   |  transmitted unless the last BFD Control packet received from the
   |  remote system contains a nonzero value in Required Min Echo RX
   |  Interval.
   |
   |  When a system is using the Echo function with either Asynchronous
   |  or Demand mode, BFD Echo packets MAY be transmitted when
   |  bfd.SessionState is Up, and the interval between transmitted BFD
   |  Echo packets MUST NOT be less than the value advertised by the
   |  remote system in Required Min Echo RX Interval, except as follows:
   |  [...]
-->


7) <!--[rfced] Please clarify this sentence, in particular, 
"would be counter productive to check".

Original:
   Moreover, creating congestion would be counter
   productive to check the bidirectional connectivity.

Perhaps:
   Moreover, creating congestion would be 
   counterproductive to checking the bidirectional connectivity.
-->


8) <!--[rfced] FYI, we updated this sentence to three sentences as follows;
please review whether the text conveys the intended meaning. In
particular, please review whether "other BFD system" was intended as
singular (as below) or plural (perhaps you intended "coexist with 
other types of BFD sessions").

Original:
   At a BFD-
   enabled local system, the Unaffiliated BFD Echo session can coexist
   with other type of BFD session, in which scenario the remote system
   for the Unaffiliated BFD Echo session must be different from the
   remote system for other type of BFD session, and the local system's
   discriminators for different BFD sessions must be different, at the
   same time it's not necessary for the local system to differentiate
   the Unaffiliated BFD Echo session from other type of BFD session.

Current:
   At a BFD-
   enabled local system, the Unaffiliated BFD Echo session can coexist
   with another type of BFD session.  In that scenario, the remote
   system for the Unaffiliated BFD Echo session must be different from
   the remote system for the other type of BFD session, and the local
   system's discriminators for different BFD sessions must be different.
   At the same time, it's not necessary for the local system to
   differentiate the Unaffiliated BFD Echo session from the other type
   of BFD session.
-->


9) <!-- [rfced] FYI, we have updated this reference to match
what was available at the URL, as shown below.

For the URL, would you prefer to use the original
(A) https://www.broadband-forum.org/technical/download/TR-146.pdf
(which redirects to a wiki page titled "Broadband Forum Published 
Resources") or 
(B) https://www.broadband-forum.org/pdfs/tr-146-1-0-0.pdf
(which is the document itself)?

Original:
   [BBF-TR-146]
              Broadband Forum, "BBF Technical Report - Subscriber
              Sessions Issue 1", 2013, <https://www.broadband-
              forum.org/technical/download/TR-146.pdf>.


Current:
   [BBF-TR-146]
              Broadband Forum, "TR-146: Subscriber Sessions", Broadband
              Forum Technical Report, TR-146, Issue 1, May 2013,
              <https://www.broadband-forum.org/technical/download/TR-
              146.pdf>.
-->


10) <!-- [rfced] Please review the "Inclusive Language" portion of the online 
Style Guide <https://www.rfc-editor.org/styleguide/part2/#inclusive_language>
and let us know if any changes are needed.  Updates of this nature typically
result in more precise language, which is helpful for readers.

Note that our script did not flag any words in particular, but this should 
still be reviewed as a best practice.
-->


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RFC9747 (draft-ietf-bfd-unaffiliated-echo-14)

Title            : Unaffiliated Bidirectional Forwarding Detection (BFD) Echo
Author(s)        : W. Cheng, R. Wang, X. Min, R. Rahman, R. Boddireddy
WG Chair(s)      : Jeffrey Haas, Reshad Rahman
Area Director(s) : Jim Guichard, John Scudder, Gunter Van de Velde

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