Hi Suresh, hi all,

Actually we discussed this yesterday at the IAB meeting and I thought we agreed 
that we don’t want security considerations in workshop reports. 

Mirja



> On 6. Feb 2025, at 18:01, Sandy Ginoza <sgin...@amsl.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Suresh, Mirja,
> 
> Thank you for your replies.  The document has been updated to include the 
> following as the Security Considerations text. 
> 
>   This document is a workshop report and does not impact the security of the 
> Internet.
> 
> 
> Mirja, please let us know if any additional updates are needed or if you 
> approve the RFC for publication.
> 
> Thank you,
> RFC Editor/sg
> 
> 
>> On Feb 5, 2025, at 8:11 PM, Suresh Krishnan <suresh.krish...@gmail.com> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Lynne,
>> As the document shepherd I am fine with skipping the Security Considerations 
>> in this document, as has been done for some past workshop reports. If you 
>> feel that special casing these sends out a wrong message to the community I 
>> think we can add your proposed boilerplate text and consistently do so for 
>> the future.
>> 
>> Thanks
>> Suresh
>> 
>>> On Feb 3, 2025, at 11:53 AM, Lynne Bartholomew 
>>> <lbartholo...@staff.rfc-editor.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi, Mirja and *Suresh.
>>> 
>>> Mirja, checking in with you regarding the status of this document.  It 
>>> appears that several questions remain open.
>>> 
>>> * Suresh, please note that in your capacity as Document Shepherd we also 
>>> need to hear from you regarding the Security Considerations section and 
>>> Mirja's comments below.
>>> 
>>> Please review and advise.
>>> 
>>> The latest files are posted here.  Please refresh your browser:
>>> 
>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9707.txt
>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9707.pdf
>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9707.html
>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9707.xml
>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9707-diff.html
>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9707-rfcdiff.html (side by side)
>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9707-auth48diff.html
>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9707-auth48rfcdiff.html (side by side)
>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9707-lastdiff.html
>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9707-lastrfcdiff.html (side by side)
>>> 
>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9707-xmldiff1.html
>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9707-xmldiff2.html
>>> 
>>> Thank you!
>>> 
>>> RFC Editor/lb
>>> 
>>>> On Jan 21, 2025, at 7:32 AM, Mirja Kuehlewind (IETF) <i...@kuehlewind.net> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On 8. Jan 2025, at 00:49, Sandy Ginoza <sgin...@amsl.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Please see comments below. 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Jan 7, 2025, at 9:45 AM, Lynne Bartholomew <lbartholo...@amsl.com> 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Mirja: I don’t think security considerations are useful for workshop 
>>>>>>> reports. All workshop reports that I’ve been involved with did not have 
>>>>>>> security considerations but I did see that some other reports do. 
>>>>>>> However, I assume they have mostly been added during AUTH48 based on 
>>>>>>> this kind of request. Particularly just adding the sentence above is 
>>>>>>> not useful and I wouldn’t want to do that just for the sake for 
>>>>>>> process. If we want security consideration we should come up with real 
>>>>>>> ones but as I said I don’t think we should just add anything to report 
>>>>>>> in that respect. I think we should conclude with the IAB to not have 
>>>>>>> security consideration for workshop reports in general in future.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> [rfced]  Agreed that the section isn't necessary in this case, but for 
>>>>>> the time being, we need to follow our current process, which includes 
>>>>>> asking the Document Shepherd for approval.
>>>> 
>>>> The IAB document shepherd or IAB stream manager or maybe IAB chair?
>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> That being said, would you like us to set precedent here by removing the 
>>>>>> Security Considerations and asking the Document Shepherd for approval of 
>>>>>> the new form?
>>>> 
>>>> RFC9490 (M-TEN), RFC9307 (AID), and RFC9075 (COVID) don’t have security 
>>>> consideration. Yes, I’m an author on all of these, however, just saying 
>>>> this one wouldn’t set the precedent.
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Jumping in on this one - Security Considerations are required per the RFC 
>>>>> Style Guide (see 
>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc7322.html#section-4.8.5).  We suggest 
>>>>> the following: 
>>>>> 
>>>>> This document is a workshop report and does not impact the security of 
>>>>> the Internet.
>>>> 
>>>> I’d be fine with that and in this case we should just use this exact same 
>>>> phrasing for all reports in my opinion.
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> If the IAB would like to discuss special handling for IAB workshop 
>>>>> reports, we prefer having the discussion outside of an AUTH48.  Please 
>>>>> let us know if the text above is acceptable.
>>>> 
>>>> Yes, we can’t decide this for good in the auth48 process, however, we 
>>>> could simply add a short item to the next IAB call. I don’t think this 
>>>> would need a long discussion…
>>>> 
>>>> Mirja
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Sandy
>>>> 
>>> 
>> 
> 

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