Hi Alanna,

Thank you for the edits.
I have reviewed the document and approve for publication.

Rgds
Shraddha


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> On Jan 27, 2025, at 9:04 PM, Shraddha Hegde 
> <shraddha=40juniper....@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Thank you for the edits.
> Pls see inline for replies <SH>..
>
> I could not open the text side-by-side diff link.
> Could you pls send the link again ? I want to review the diff before 
> approving.
>
>
> Rgds
> Shraddha
>
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> Subject: Re: AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9716
> <draft-ietf-mpls-spring-inter-domain-oam-20> for your review
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> the following questions, which are also in the XML file.
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> 1) <!-- [rfced] Title
>
> a.) As "Path Monitoring System/Head-end" is not mentioned in the abstract, 
> may we clarify the title as follows so that it aligns more closely with the 
> abstract? It will also help avoid the awkward hyphenation of "Path Monitoring 
> System/Head-end based".
>
> Original:
>
> Path Monitoring System/Head-end based MPLS Ping and Traceroute in Inter-
>                    domain Segment Routing Networks
>
> Perhaps:
>
> Mechanisms for MPLS Ping and Traceroute Procedures in Inter-Domain
> Segment Routing Networks
>
> <SH> OK
>
> b.) Note that we have updated the short title, which appears in the running 
> header in the PDF output. Please review.
>
> Original:
> Inter-as-OAM
>
> Current:
> MPLS Ping and Traceroute in Inter-Domain SR Networks
>
> -->
> <SH> OK
>
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>
> 3) <!-- [rfced] Please review the following questions regarding the text 
> below:
>
> a.) To improve readability, may we remove the "/" characters and update the 
> text as follows?
>
> b.) In addition, may we expand "SID" as follows (as Section 3.6 of RFC 7322 
> suggests that abbreviations should be expanded upon first use)?
>
> Original:
>
>   AS1, AS2, and AS3 are SR enabled and the egress links have PeerNode
>   SID/PeerAdj SID/ PeerSet SID configured and advertised via [RFC9086].
>   PeerNode SID/PeerAdj SID/PeerSet SID are referred to as Egress Peer
>   Engineering SIDs (EPE- SIDs) in this document.
>
> Perhaps:
>
>   AS1, AS2, and AS3 are SR enabled, and the egress links have the following
>   Segment Identifiers (SIDs) configured and advertised via [RFC9086]:
>   PeerNode SID, PeerAdj SID, and PeerSet SID. The PeerNode SID, PeerAdj
>   SID, and PeerSet SID are referred to as Egress Peer Engineering SIDs (EPE-
>   SIDs) in this document.
>
> -->
> <SH> OK
>
> 4) <!--[rfced] To avoid the repetition of "based", may we update this 
> sentence as follows?
>
> Original:
>
>   [RFC7743] describes an Echo-relay based solution based on advertising
>   a new Relay Node Address Stack TLV containing a stack of Echo-relay
>   IP addresses.
>
> Perhaps:
>
>   [RFC7743] describes an Echo-relay-based solution that is predicated on
>   advertising a new Relay Node Address Stack TLV containing a stack of
>   Echo-relay IP addresses.
>
> -->
> <SH> OK
>
> 5) <!-- [rfced] Please review our questions regarding the citations in the 
> text below:
>
> Original:
>
>   The connectivity to the remote PEs can be achieved using BGP-Labeled
>   Unicast (BGP-LU) [RFC8277] or by stacking the labels for each domain
>   as described in [RFC8604].
>
> a.) We were unable to find the term "BGP-Labeled Unicast (BGP-LU)" used in 
> RFC 8277 or other previous RFCs. How may we update this citation accordingly?
>
> b.) We were unable to find content about "stacking labels" in RFC 8064. 
> Please review and let us know if any updates are needed.
>
> -->
> <SH> The connectivity to the remote PEs can be achieved by  BGP
> advertisements With  MPLS label bound to the prefix as described in [RFC 
> 8277] or by building paths using list of segments as described in [RFC8604].
>
> 6) <!-- [rfced] Please review our updates to the text below to ensure these 
> changes do not alter your intended meaning.
>
> Original:
>
>   This document defines the Type-A, Type-C, and Type-D Segment sub-TLVs
>   usage and processing when it appears in TLV 21(Reply Path TLV).
>
> Current:
>
>   This document defines the usage and processing of the Type-A, Type-C, and
>   Type-D Segment sub-TLVs when they appear in TLV 21 (Reply Path TLV).
>
> -->
> <SH> ok
>
> 7) <!-- [rfced] May we add "(MBZ)" to the text following Figure 4 to reflect 
> similar text that appears following Figure 5?
>
> Original (appears after Figure 4):
>
>   When A-flag is unset, this
>   field has no meaning and thus MUST be set to zero on transmission and
>   ignored on receipt.
>
> Original (appears after Figure 5):
>
>   When A-flag is unset, this
>   field has no meaning and thus MUST be set to zero (MBZ) on transmission and
>   ignored on receipt.
>
> -->
> <SH> OK
>
> 8) <!-- [rfced] FYI - We have removed the second sentence from the definition 
> below as it repeats information from the first sentence. Please review and 
> let us know if further updates are needed.
>
> Original:
>
>   SID: optional: 4-octet field containing label, TC, S and TTL as
>   defined in Section 4.1.  The SID is optional and specifies a 4-octet
>   MPLS SID containing label, TC, S, and TTL as defined in Section 4.1.
>   When the SID field is present, it MUST be used for constructing the
>   Reply Path.
>
> Current:
>
>   SID: Optional 4-octet field containing the labels TC, S, and TTL as
>   defined in Section 4.1.  When the SID field is present, it MUST be
>   used for constructing the Reply Path.
>
> -->
> <SH> OK
>
> 9) <!-- [rfced] FYI - We have updated the text below for clarity; please 
> review.
>
> Original:
>
>   If optional MPLS SID is present in the Type-C/Type-D segments SID
>   MUST be used to encode the echo reply with MPLS labels.
>
> Current:
>
>   If an optional MPLS SID is present in the Type-C/Type-D segments, the SID
>   MUST be used to encode the echo reply with MPLS labels.
>
> -->
> <SH> OK
>
> 10) <!--[rfced] IANA queries
>
> (Note: After this document completes AUTH48, we will ask IANA to
> update their registry accordingly.) <SH> OK
>
> a.) To reflect the definition of "Type-A", should a comma be added after "SID 
> only" in the Sub-TLV Name of Sub-Type 46?
>
> Current:
>
>   Type-A:  SID only, in the form of an MPLS label
>   ...
>   +-==========+-====================================+-=============+-
>   | Sub-Type | Sub-TLV Name                       | Reference   |
>   +-==========+-====================================+-=============+-
>   | 46       | SID only in the form of MPLS label | Section 4.1 |
>   |          |                                    | of RFC 9716 |
>
>
> <SH> OK
>
> b.) As other values registered in the "Reply Path Return Codes" registry do 
> not include periods, we have removed the periods from the descriptions of the 
> following values registered by this document. Please let us know of any 
> objections.
>
> Original:
>
>   TBA1     Use Reply Path TLV from this echo
>            reply for building next echo request.
>
>   TBA2     Local policy does not allow dynamic
>            return Path building.
>
> Current:
>
>   0x0006   Use Reply Path TLV from this echo
>            reply for building the next echo request
>
>   0x0007   Local policy does not allow dynamic
>            return path building
>
> -->
> <SH> OK
>
> 11) <!-- [rfced] FYI - We have updated the [IEEE-802.1AE] reference entry as 
> follows. Please review.
>
> Original:
>
>   [IEEE-802.1AE]
>              IEEE, "IEEE Standard for Local and metropolitan area
>              networks-Media Access Control (MAC) Security", August
>              2023.
>
> Current:
>
>   [IEEE-802.1AE]
>              IEEE, "IEEE Standard for Local and metropolitan area
>              networks-Media Access Control (MAC) Security", IEEE Std
>              8021.AE-2018, DOI 10.1109/IEEESTD.2018.8585421, December
>              2018, 
> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/8585421__;!!NEt6yMaO-gk!HaATadzYlFDiy1PvZZeL81r-taqAVJrT5ZVs4euc40O73gOqOd910nVCLjV9y0m28ygLtwl68evidYtMD3LMsDLl$
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> -->
>
> <SH> OK
> 12) <!--[rfced] FYI - The section previously titled "APPENDIX" has been moved 
> after the references and is now titled as "Examples".
> Please review.
> -->
>
> <SH> OK
> 13) <!--[rfced] As the "/" character can mean "and", "or", or "and/or", "the 
> controller/PMS or head-end node" is unclear in the sentence below. Please 
> review and let us know how this sentence may be clarified.
>
> Original:
>
>   Topology of AS1 and AS2 are
>   advertised via BGP-Link State (BGP-LS) to the controller/PMS or head-
>   end node.
>
> -->
> <SH> / means "OR" here.
>
> 14) <!-- [rfced] Please review our changes to the text below to ensure these 
> updates do not alter your intended meaning.
>
> Original:
>
>   The same Reply Path TLV is sufficient for any router in AS2 to send the
>   reply.  Because the first label(N-ASBR4) can direct echo reply to ASBR4 and
>   the second one (EPE-ASBR4-ASBR1) to direct echo reply to AS1.
>   ...
>   The example described in the above paragraphs can be extended to
>   multiple ASes by following the same procedure of each ASBR adding
>   Node-SID and EPE-SID on receiving echo requests from neighboring AS.
>
> Current:
>
>   The same Reply Path TLV is sufficient for any router in AS2 to send the
>   reply.  This is because the first label (N-ASBR4) can direct the echo reply
>   to ASBR4 and the second one (EPE-ASBR4-ASBR1) can direct the echo reply to
>   AS1.
>   ...
>   The example described in the above paragraphs can be extended to multiple
>   ASes.  This is done by following the same procedure for each ASBR, i.e.,
>   adding Node-SIDs and EPE-SIDs on receiving echo requests from neighboring
>   ASes.
>
> -->
> <SH> OK
>
> 15) <!--[rfced] We are having some difficulty understanding how "while 
> sending the echo reply" fits into this sentence. May we clarify this sentence 
> as follows?
>
> Original:
>
>   ABR1 receives the echo request
>   and while sending the echo reply adds its node Label to the Reply
>   Path TLV and sets the Reply path return code to TBA1.
>
> Perhaps:
>
>   ABR1 receives the echo request, adds its node Label to the Reply
>   Path TLV (while sending the echo reply), and sets the Reply path return
>   code to 0x0006.
>
> -->
> <SH> OK.
>
> 16) <!-- [rfced] Terminology:
>
> a.) The following terms appear to be capitalized inconsistently throughout 
> this document. Please review these different uses and let us know how to 
> update for consistency.
>
> A-Flag vs. A-flag vs. A Flag
> <SH> A-Flag
>
> Reply Path return code vs. reply path return code vs. Reply path
> return code <SH> Reply Path return code
>
> Segment Types vs. segment Types vs. segment types
>
> <SH>Segment Types
>
> SR path vs. SR Path
> <SH> SR Path
>
> SR Policy vs. SR policy
> <SH> SR Policy
>
>
> b.) We note inconsistencies in the terms listed below. We updated to the form 
> on the right. Please let us know any concerns.
>
> Inter-AS vs. inter-AS
> <SH> OK
> Inter-domain vs. inter-domain
> <SH> OK
> Sub-TLV vs. sub-TLV
> <SH> OK
> Label vs. label (when used generally)
> <SH> ok
> Segment Sub-TLV vs. segment sub-TLV vs. Segment sub-TLV <SH> OK MPLS
> Label vs. MPLS label <SH> OK
>
> IPv4 node address vs. IPv4 Node Address <SH> OK
> IPv6 node address vs. IPv6 Node Address <SH> OK
>
>
> c.) We have updated the following terms to reflect how they appear in 
> previously published RFCs. Please review and let us know of any objections.
>
> BGP Peering Segments > BGP peering segments (per RFC 8402) <SH> OK
> Centralized BGP Egress Peer Engineering > centralized BGP Egress Peer
> Engineering (per RFC 9087) <SH> OK
>
>
> d.) FYI - We have removed quotation marks from around the following field 
> names to reflect how field names are more commonly used throughout the text.
>
> Original:
>
>   The Segment Types described above contain the following flags in the
>   "Flags" field (codes to be assigned by IANA from the new registry
>   "Segment Sub-TLV Flags"):
>   ...
>   A-Flag: This flag indicates the presence of SR Algorithm ID in the
>   "SR-Algorithm" field applicable to various segment Types.
>
> Current:
>
>   The Segment Types described above contain the following flags in the
>   Flags field (codes assigned by IANA from the "Segment ID Sub-TLV
>   Flags" registry):
>   ...
>   A-Flag:  This flag indicates the presence of an SR Algorithm ID in
>      the SR Algorithm field applicable to various segment Types.
> <SH> OK
>
> e.) Per RFC 8029, may we capitalize all instances of "return code"?
>
> -->
> <SH> OK
>
> 17) <!-- [rfced] FYI - We have added expansions for abbreviations upon first 
> use per Section 3.6 of RFC 7322 ("RFC Style Guide"). Please review each 
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>
> Forwarding Equivalence Class (FEC)
> Media Access Control Security (MACsec)
>
> -->
> <SH> OK
>
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>
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> -->
> <SH> OK
>
> Thank you.
>
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>
>
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> --------------------------------------
> RFC9716 (draft-ietf-mpls-spring-inter-domain-oam-20)
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> Title            : Path Monitoring System/Head-end based MPLS Ping and 
> Traceroute in Inter-domain Segment Routing Networks
> Author(s)        : S. Hegde, K. Arora, M. Srivastava, S. Ninan, N. Kumar
> WG Chair(s)      : Nicolai Leymann, Tarek Saad, Tony Li
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> Area Director(s) : Jim Guichard, John Scudder, Gunter Van de Velde



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