Dear editor

I reviewed the changes and I approve the publication.

Nit: in the change under fig 4, I'd add "via leaf 122" to clarify how the
reflection happens.

Many thanks

Pascal

Le dim. 12 janv. 2025, 07:01, <wei.yue...@zte.com.cn> a écrit :

> Hi Madison and Pascal,
> Pascal's email changed, so I forward this email to
> pascal.thub...@gmail.com.
> Thank you!
>
> *Best Regards,*
>
> *Yuehua Wei*
>
> M: +86 13851460269 E: wei.yue...@zte.com.cn
> Original
> *From: *MadisonChurch <mchu...@staff.rfc-editor.org>
> *To: *魏月华00019655;张征00007940;f...@yandex-team.ru <f...@yandex-team.ru>;
> pthub...@cisco.com <pthub...@cisco.com>;p...@juniper.net <p...@juniper.net>;
>
> *Cc: *RFC Editor <rfc-edi...@rfc-editor.org>;rift-...@ietf.org <
> rift-...@ietf.org>;rift-cha...@ietf.org <rift-cha...@ietf.org>;
> zzh...@juniper.net <zzh...@juniper.net>;James Guichard <
> james.n.guich...@futurewei.com>;auth48archive@rfc-ed <
> auth48archive@rfc-editor.org>;Madison Church <mchu...@staff.rfc-editor.org
> >;
> *Date: * 2025年01月10日 03:58
> *Subject: **Re: AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9696 <draft-ietf-rift-applicability-17>
> for your review*
> Hi Dmitry, Pascal, and Tony,
>
>
> [Note that this email is coming to you from a new email address on our end.]
>
>
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>
> > On Jan 2, 2025, at 9:03 AM, Madison Church <mchu...@amsl.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Authors,
> >
>
> > This is a friendly reminder that we have yet to hear back from some of you 
> > regarding this document’s readiness for publication. We await approvals 
> > from Dmitry, Pascal, and Tony.
> >
>
> > Please review the document carefully to ensure satisfaction as we do not 
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> > Thank you,
> > RFC Editor/mc
> >
> >> On Dec 20, 2024, at 10:12 AM, Madison Church <mchu...@amsl.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi Yuehua,
> >>
>
> >> Thank you for your reply! We have marked your approval on the AUTH48 
> >> status page (see
> https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9696).
> >>
> >> Once we receive approvals from Dmitry, Pascal, and Tony, we will move this 
> >> document forward in the publication process.
>
> >>
> >> Thank you!
> >> RFC Editor/mc
> >>
> >>> On Dec 19, 2024, at 7:00 PM, wei.yue...@zte.com.cn wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hi Madison,
> >>> Thank you.
>
> >>> I have reviewed the whole draft and I approve the publication as the 
> >>> editor.
> >>>
> >>> Best Regards,
> >>> Yuehua Wei
> >>>
> >>> Original
> >>> From: MadisonChurch <mchu...@amsl.com>
> >>> To: 魏月华00019655;张征00007940;f...@yandex-team.ru <f...@yandex-team.ru>;
> pthub...@cisco.com <pthub...@cisco.com>;p...@juniper.net <p...@juniper.net>;
> >>> Cc: RFC Editor <rfc-edi...@rfc-editor.org>;rift-...@ietf.org <
> rift-...@ietf.org>;rift-cha...@ietf.org <rift-cha...@ietf.org>;
> zzh...@juniper.net <zzh...@juniper.net>;James Guichard <
> james.n.guich...@futurewei.com>;auth48archive@rfc-ed <
> auth48archive@rfc-editor.org>;
> >>> Date: 2024年12月18日 23:33
>
> >>> Subject: Re: AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9696 <draft-ietf-rift-applicability-17> 
> >>> for your review
> >>> Hi Authors,
> >>>
>
> >>> Zheng - We have noted your approval on the AUTH48 status page (please see
> https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9696).
> >>>
>
> >>> Yuehua - Thank you for your quick reply! We have updated the document to 
> >>> reflect your proposed change in the updated files below.
> >>>
>
> >>> Please review the document carefully to ensure satisfaction as we do not 
> >>> make changes once it has been published as an RFC. Contact us with any 
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> >>> Thank you,
> >>> RFC Editor/mc
> >>>
> >>>> On Dec 17, 2024, at 7:35 PM, <wei.yue...@zte.com.cn> <
> wei.yue...@zte.com.cn> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Hi Madison,
> >>>> Thank you very much for such a quick revision.
> >>>> Everything looks perfect except one minor flaw:
> >>>>
> >>>> ORIGINAL:
> >>>> 4.2.4.  Reachability of Internal Nodes in the Fabric
> >>>> Under normal operating conditions this can be easily achieved by
> >>>> injecting the node's loopback address into North and South Prefix
> >>>> TIEs or other implementation specific mechanisms.
> >>>> CURRENT:
> >>>> 4.2.4.  Reachability of Internal Nodes in the Fabric
> >>>> Under normal operating conditions, this can be easily achieved by
> >>>> injecting the node's loopback address into North and Prefix South
> >>>> TIEs or other implementation-specific mechanisms.
> >>>> PROPOSE:
> >>>> Under normal operating conditions, this can be easily achieved by
> >>>> injecting the node's loopback address into Prefix North TIEs and Prefix 
> >>>> South
>
> >>>> TIEs or other implementation-specific mechanisms.
> >>>>
> >>>> Best Regards,
> >>>> Yuehua Wei
> >>>> M: +86 13851460269 E: wei.yue...@zte.com.cn
> >>>>
> >>>> Original
> >>>> From: MadisonChurch <mchu...@amsl.com>
> >>>> To: 魏月华00019655;张征00007940;f...@yandex-team.ru <f...@yandex-team.ru>;
> pthub...@cisco.com <pthub...@cisco.com>;p...@juniper.net <p...@juniper.net>;
> >>>> Cc: RFC Editor <rfc-edi...@rfc-editor.org>;rift-...@ietf.org <
> rift-...@ietf.org>;rift-cha...@ietf.org <rift-cha...@ietf.org>;
> zzh...@juniper.net <zzh...@juniper.net>;James Guichard <
> james.n.guich...@futurewei.com>;auth48archive@rfc-ed <
> auth48archive@rfc-editor.org>;
> >>>> Date: 2024年12月18日 06:27
>
> >>>> Subject: Re: AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9696 <draft-ietf-rift-applicability-17> 
> >>>> for your review
> >>>> Hi Yuehua,
> >>>>
>
> >>>> Thank you for your reply! We have updated the document accordingly and 
> >>>> all of our questions have been addressed.
> >>>>
>
> >>>> Please review the document carefully to ensure satisfaction as we do not 
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> >>>> Thank you!
> >>>> RFC Editor/mc
> >>>>
> >>>>> On Dec 17, 2024, at 1:37 AM, wei.yue...@zte.com.cn wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Dear editors,
>
> >>>>> I have resolved all the questions inline with your email starting with 
> >>>>> "weiyh>>>", I appreciate your further comments.
> >>>>> In adition, I believe in "5.10.  In-Band Reachability of Nodes",
> >>>>> "-- the spine nodes in Figure 9 -- " SHOULD BE  "-- the spine nodes in 
> >>>>> Figure 11 -- "
>
> >>>>> Thank you!
> >>>>> Best Regards,
> >>>>> Yuehua Wei
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Original
> >>>>> From: rfc-edi...@rfc-editor.org <rfc-edi...@rfc-editor.org>
> >>>>> To: 魏月华00019655;张征00007940;f...@yandex-team.ru <f...@yandex-team.ru
> >;pthub...@cisco.com <pthub...@cisco.com>;p...@juniper.net <p...@juniper.net
> >;
> >>>>> Cc: rfc-edi...@rfc-editor.org <rfc-edi...@rfc-editor.org>;
> rift-...@ietf.org <rift-...@ietf.org>;rift-cha...@ietf.org <
> rift-cha...@ietf.org>;zzh...@juniper.net <zzh...@juniper.net>;
> james.n.guich...@futurewei.com <james.n.guich...@futurewei.com>;
> auth48archive@rfc-editor.org <auth48archive@rfc-editor.org>;
> >>>>> Date: 2024年12月12日 08:21
>
> >>>>> Subject: Re: AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9696 <draft-ietf-rift-applicability-17> 
> >>>>> for your review
> >>>>> Authors,
> >>>>>
>
> >>>>> While reviewing this document during AUTH48, please resolve (as 
> >>>>> necessary) the following questions, which are also in the XML file.
> >>>>>
>
> >>>>> 1) <!-- [rfced] Please note that the title of the document has been 
> >>>>> updated to
> >>>>> expand "RIFT" per Section 3.6 of RFC 7322 ("RFC Style Guide"). Please
> >>>>> review.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Original:
> >>>>>  RIFT Applicability and Operational Considerations
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Current:
>
> >>>>>  Routing in Fat Trees (RIFT) Applicability and Operational 
> >>>>> Considerations
> >>>>> -->
> >>>>> weiyh>>>Good!
> >>>>>
>
> >>>>> 2) <!-- [rfced] Please insert any keywords (beyond those that appear in
> >>>>> the title) for use on https://www.rfc-editor.org/search. -->
> >>>>> weiyh>>>no more keywords.
> >>>>>
>
> >>>>> 3) <!-- [rfced] To avoid repetition and make the text more concise, we 
> >>>>> have
> >>>>> updated the following sentences in Section 2. Please let us know any
> >>>>> objections.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Original:
> >>>>>  This document uses the terminology of RIFT [RIFT].  The most
>
> >>>>>  frequently used terminologies defined in RIFT are listed here.  These 
> >>>>> terms
> >>>>>  are consistent with definition in RIFT [RIFT]
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Current:
> >>>>>  This document uses the terminology defined in [RIFT].  The most
>
> >>>>>  frequently used terms and their definitions from that document are 
> >>>>> listed
> >>>>>  here.
> >>>>> -->
> >>>>> weiyh>>>no objections.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 4) <!-- [rfced] What is "vice versa" referring to in this sentence?
>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Original:
> >>>>> If links in a Clos are considered as either being all directed
> >>>>> towards the top or vice versa, each of such two graphs is a DAG.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Perhaps:
> >>>>> If links in a Clos are considered as either being all directed
> >>>>> towards the top or bottom, each of such two graphs is a DAG.
> >>>>> -->
> >>>>> weiyh>>>no objections.
> >>>>>
>
> >>>>> 5) <!-- [rfced] We are unable to verify if the term "homonym" is used 
> >>>>> correctly in [FATTREE]. May we rephrase the following sentence for 
> >>>>> accuracy?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Original:
> >>>>>  Clos [CLOS] topologies (called commonly a fat tree/network in modern
>
> >>>>>  IP fabric considerations as homonym to the original definition of the
> >>>>>  term Fat Tree [FATTREE]) have gained prominence in today's
> >>>>>  networking, primarily as a result of the paradigm shift towards a
>
> >>>>>  centralized data-center based architecture that deliver a majority of
> >>>>>  computation and storage services.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Perhaps:
> >>>>>  Clos [CLOS] topologies (commonly called a Fat Tree/network in modern
>
> >>>>>  IP fabric considerations as a similar term for the original definition 
> >>>>> of the
> >>>>>  term Fat Tree [FATTREE]) have gained prominence in today's
> >>>>>  networking, primarily as a result of the paradigm shift towards a
>
> >>>>>  centralized data-center-based architecture that delivers a majority of
> >>>>>  computation and storage services.
> >>>>> -->
> >>>>> weiyh>>>no objections.
> >>>>>
>
> >>>>> 6) <!-- [rfced] May we specify "link-state" and "distance-vector" for 
> >>>>> clarity in
> >>>>> the following instances?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Original:
>
> >>>>>  RIFT combines the advantage of both link-state and distance-vector...
> >>>>>
>
> >>>>>  RIFT also eliminates major disadvantages of link-state and 
> >>>>> distance-vector
> >>>>>  with...
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Perhaps:
> >>>>>  RIFT combines the advantages of both link-state and distance-vector
> >>>>>  protocols...
> >>>>>
>
> >>>>>  RIFT also eliminates major disadvantages of link-state and 
> >>>>> distance-vector
> >>>>>  protocols...
> >>>>> -->
> >>>>> weiyh>>>no objections.
> >>>>>
>
> >>>>> 7) <!-- [rfced] Some author comments are present in the XML. Please 
> >>>>> confirm that
> >>>>> no updates related to these comments are outstanding. Note that the
> >>>>> comments will be deleted prior to publication.
> >>>>> -->
> >>>>> weiyh>>>confirmed.
> >>>>>
>
> >>>>> 8) <!-- [rfced] May we update the following sentence for clarity? 
> >>>>> Additionally,
>
> >>>>> should "employed" be updated to "deployed"? We note that this is the 
> >>>>> only
> >>>>> instance of "employed" that appears in the document.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Original:
> >>>>>  A full-mesh connectivity between nodes on the same level can be
>
> >>>>>  employed and that allows N-SPF to provide for any node losing all its
> >>>>>  northbound adjacencies (as long as any of the other nodes in the
> >>>>>  level are northbound connected) to still participate in northbound
> >>>>>  forwarding.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Perhaps:
> >>>>>  A full-mesh connectivity between nodes on the same level can be
>
> >>>>>  deployed, which allows North SPF (N-SPF) to provide for any node 
> >>>>> losing all its
> >>>>>  northbound adjacencies (as long as any of the other nodes in the
> >>>>>  level are northbound connected) and still participate in northbound
> >>>>>  forwarding.
> >>>>> -->
> >>>>> weiyh>>>Yes, "deployed" is better.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>>> 9) <!-- [rfced] Should "Link State" be specified as "link-state 
> >>>>> protocols" here?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Original:
> >>>>>  In that case, RIFT operates very much like RPL [RFC6550], but using
> >>>>>  Link State for southbound routes (downwards in RPL's terms).
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Perhaps:
> >>>>>  In that case, RIFT operates very much like RPL [RFC6550], but uses
>
> >>>>>  link-state protocols for southbound routes (downwards in RPL's terms).
> >>>>> -->
> >>>>> weiyh>>>if "link-state" is too brief, maybe say, "but uses
> >>>>>  link-state information for southbound routes (downwards in RPL's 
> >>>>> terms)."
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>>> 10) <!-- [rfced] May we rephrase the following sentence for ease of the 
> >>>>> reader?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Original:
> >>>>>  RIFT is suited for applying in data center (DC) IP fabrics underlay
>
> >>>>>  routing, vast majority of which seem to be currently (and for the 
> >>>>> foreseeable
> >>>>>  future) Clos architectures.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Perhaps:
> >>>>>  RIFT is suited for applying underlay routing in data center (DC) IP
>
> >>>>>  fabrics, with the vast majority of these IP fabrics being Clos 
> >>>>> architectures
> >>>>>  (and will be for the foreseeable future).
> >>>>> -->
> >>>>> weiyh>>>Good!
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>>> 11) <!-- [rfced] To match [TR-384], may we update "leaf and spine 
> >>>>> fabric" to
> >>>>> "leaf-spine fabric"?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Original:
>
> >>>>>  The two I/O modules are interconnected by a leaf and spine fabric 
> >>>>> [TR-384].
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Perhaps:
>
> >>>>>  The two I/O modules are interconnected by a leaf-spine fabric [TR-384].
> >>>>> -->
> >>>>> weiyh>>>since "spine-and-leaf" is widely used in this rfc, I'd prefer 
> >>>>> "The two I/O modules are interconnected by a spine-and-leaf fabric 
> >>>>> [TR-384]."
>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>>> 12) <!-- [rfced] May we rephrase and break up the following sentence to
> >>>>> improve readability?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Original:
> >>>>>  *  RIFT reduces FIB size towards the bottom of the IP fabric where
>
> >>>>>     most nodes reside and allows with that for cheaper hardware on the
> >>>>>     edges and introduction of modern IP fabric architectures that
> >>>>>     encompass e.g. server multi-homing.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Perhaps:
> >>>>>  *  RIFT reduces FIB size towards the bottom of the IP fabric where
> >>>>>     most nodes reside. This allows for cheaper hardware on the
> >>>>>     edges and introduction of modern IP fabric architectures that
> >>>>>     encompass server multihoming and other mechanisms.
> >>>>> -->
> >>>>> weiyh>>>Good!
> >>>>>
>
> >>>>> 13) <!-- [rfced] We note that the following instances of text are 
> >>>>> repeated at
>
> >>>>> the end of Sections 5.1 and following Figure 4 in Section 5.2. Should 
> >>>>> the text
> >>>>> in Section 5.2 be removed to avoid repetition?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Original (Section 5.1):
> >>>>>  In an equivalent fashion, as the result of the south
>
> >>>>>  reflection between Spine121-Leaf121-Spine122 and 
> >>>>> Spine121-Leaf122-Spine122,
> >>>>>  Spine121 and Spine 122 knows each other at level 1.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Original (Section 5.2):
> >>>>>  As shown in Figure 4, as the result of the south
>
> >>>>>  reflection between Spine121-Leaf121-Spine122 and 
> >>>>> Spine121-Leaf122-Spine122,
> >>>>>  Spine121 and Spine 122 knows each other at level 1.
> >>>>> -->
>
> >>>>> weiyh>>>Good catch! I suggest to replace "as the result of the south 
> >>>>> reflection between Spine121-Leaf121-Spine122 and 
> >>>>> Spine121-Leaf122-Spine122, Spine121 and Spine 122 know each other at 
> >>>>> level 1" with "as the result of the south reflection, Spine121 and 
> >>>>> Spine 122 know each other at level 1". Is it better?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>>> 14) <!-- [rfced] We have rephrased the following sentence and split it 
> >>>>> into two
> >>>>> for ease of the reader. Please let us know any objections.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Original:
> >>>>>  Without disaggregation mechanism, when linkSL6 fails, the packet
>
> >>>>>  from leaf121 to prefix122 will probably go up through linkSL5 to 
> >>>>> linkTS3 then
>
> >>>>>  ago down through linkTS4 to linkSL8 to Leaf122 or go up through 
> >>>>> linkSL5 to
>
> >>>>>  linkTS6 then go down through linkTS8 and linkSL8 to Leaf122 based on 
> >>>>> pure
> >>>>>  default route.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Current:
> >>>>>  Without disaggregation mechanisms, the packet from leaf121 to
>
> >>>>>  prefix122 will probably go up through linkSL5 to linkTS3 when linkSL6
>
> >>>>>  fails. Then, the packet will go down through linkTS4 to linkSL8 to 
> >>>>> Leaf122 or
>
> >>>>>  go up through linkSL5 to linkTS6, then go down through linkTS8 and 
> >>>>> linkSL8 to
> >>>>>  Leaf122 based on the pure default route.
> >>>>> -->
> >>>>> weiyh>>>no objections.
> >>>>>
>
> >>>>> 15) <!-- [rfced] Is "and when not" referring to ZTP configuring the 
> >>>>> network?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Original:
> >>>>>  It is recommended to let ZTP configure the network, and when not, it
>
> >>>>>  is recommended to configure the level of all the nodes to avoid an 
> >>>>> undesirable
> >>>>>  interaction between ZTP and the manual configuration.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Perhaps:
>
> >>>>>  It is recommended to let ZTP configure the network, and when ZTP does
>
> >>>>>  not configure the network, it is recommended to configure the level of 
> >>>>> all the
> >>>>>  nodes to avoid an undesirable interaction between ZTP and the manual
> >>>>>  configuration.
> >>>>> -->
> >>>>> weiyh>>>Good!
> >>>>>
>
> >>>>> 16) <!-- [rfced] We note that Figures 8 and 9 have the same title of 
> >>>>> "Fallen
> >>>>> Spine". Is this intentional? If not, please let us know how we should
> >>>>> update to make these figures more distinct.
> >>>>> -->
> >>>>> weiyh>>>replace "Figure 9: Fallen Spine" with "Additional Cabling 
> >>>>> Constraint Example"
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>>> 17) <!--[rfced] To clarify the content found in RFC 8505, may we 
> >>>>> rephrase the
> >>>>> text around its citations as follows?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Original:
>
> >>>>>  When using IPv6 [RFC8200], RIFT suggests to leverage [RFC8505] as the
> >>>>>  IPv6 ND interaction between the mobile node and the leaf.
> >>>>>  ...
> >>>>>  When using [RFC8505], the parallel registration of an
> >>>>>  anycast address to multiple leaves is done with the same sequence
> >>>>>  counter, whereas the sequence counter is incremented when the point
> >>>>>  of attachment changes.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Perhaps:
>
> >>>>>  When using IPv6 [RFC8200], RIFT suggests leveraging 6LoWPAN ND 
> >>>>> [RFC8505]
> >>>>>  as the IPv6 ND interaction between the mobile node and the leaf.
> >>>>>  ...
> >>>>>  When using 6LoWPAN ND [RFC8505], the parallel registration of an
> >>>>>  anycast address to multiple leaves is done with the same sequence
> >>>>>  counter, whereas the sequence counter is incremented when the point
> >>>>>  of attachment changes.
> >>>>> -->
> >>>>> weiyh>>>Good!
> >>>>>
>
> >>>>> 18) <!-- [rfced] We are unable to parse the following sentence 
> >>>>> (specifically, we
> >>>>> are unable to determine what "or the must" means). May we rephrase as
> >>>>> follows for clarity and specify "Top-of-Fabric"?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Original:
> >>>>>  It has no configuration (unless it is a Top-of-Fabric at the top of
>
> >>>>>  the topology or the must operate in the topology as leaf and/or support
>
> >>>>>  leaf-2-leaf procedures) and it will fully configure itself after being
> >>>>>  attached to the topology.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Perhaps:
> >>>>>  It has no configuration (unless it is a ToF node at the top of the
>
> >>>>>  topology or if it must operate in the topology as a leaf and/or support
>
> >>>>>  leaf-2-leaf procedures), and it will fully configure itself after being
> >>>>>  attached to the topology.
> >>>>> -->
>
> >>>>> weiyh>>> "or the must" means “the node is a leaf_only node”,the 
> >>>>> rephrasing is Good!
> >>>>>
>
> >>>>> 19) <!-- [rfced] May we rephrase the sentence below as follows (i.e., 
> >>>>> specify
> >>>>> "ToR" and update "start on" to "startup")?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Original:
> >>>>>  Sometimes, people may prefer to disaggregate from ToR to servers
>
> >>>>>  from start on, i.e. the servers have couple tens of routes in FIB from 
> >>>>> start
> >>>>>  on beside default routes to avoid breakages at rack level.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Perhaps:
> >>>>>  Sometimes people may prefer to disaggregate from ToR nodes to
>
> >>>>>  servers from startup, i.e., the servers have multiple routes in the 
> >>>>> FIB from
>
> >>>>>  startup other than default routes to avoid breakages at the rack level.
> >>>>> -->
> >>>>> weiyh>>>no objections.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 20) <!-- [rfced] References
> >>>>>
>
> >>>>> a) Please review the following reference. We have added the following 
> >>>>> URL:
> >>>>> https://www.iso.org/standard/30932.html
>  and updated the title to reflect the
>
> >>>>> accurate title of this ISO/IEC standard. Please let us know if you have 
> >>>>> any
> >>>>> objections.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Original:
> >>>>>  [ISO10589-Second-Edition]
> >>>>>             International Organization for Standardization,
> >>>>>             "Intermediate system to Intermediate system intra-domain
> >>>>>             routing information exchange protocol for use in
> >>>>>             conjunction with the protocol for providing the
> >>>>>             connectionless-mode Network Service (ISO 8473)", November
> >>>>>             2002.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Current:
> >>>>>  [ISO10589-Second-Edition]
> >>>>>             ISO/IEC, "Information technology - Telecommunications and
>
> >>>>>             information exchange between systems - Intermediate System
> >>>>>             to Intermediate System intra-domain routeing information
>
> >>>>>             exchange protocol for use in conjunction with the protocol
>
> >>>>>             for providing the connectionless-mode network service (ISO
> >>>>>             8473)", ISO/IEC 10589:2002, November 2002,
> >>>>>             <https://www.iso.org/standard/30932.html>.
> >>>>> weiyh>>>no objections.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> b) Please review the following reference. We found a URL
> >>>>> (https://www.broadband-forum.org/pdfs/tr-384-1-0-0.pdf
> ) that matches the
> >>>>> information provided in this reference and updated the reference as
> >>>>> follows. Please let us know any objections.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Original:
> >>>>>  [TR-384]   Broadband Forum Technical Report, "TR-384 Cloud Central
> >>>>>             Office Reference Architectural Framework", January 2018.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Current:
> >>>>>  [TR-384]   Broadband Forum Technical Report, "TR-384: Cloud Central
> >>>>>             Office Reference Architectural Framework", TR-384, Issue
> >>>>>             1, January 2018,
> >>>>>             <https://www.broadband-forum.org/pdfs/tr-384-1-0-0.pdf>.
> >>>>> weiyh>>>no objections.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> c) Please review the following reference. We found the following URL:
> >>>>> https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/6012836
> . We have added this URL to this
> >>>>> reference. Please let us know if you have any objections.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Original:
>
> >>>>>  [CLOS]     Yuan, X., "On Nonblocking Folded-Clos Networks in Computer
> >>>>>             Communication Environments", IEEE International Parallel &
>
> >>>>>             Distributed Processing Symposium, 2011.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Current:
>
> >>>>>  [CLOS]     Yuan, X., "On Nonblocking Folded-Clos Networks in Computer
> >>>>>             Communication Environments", 2011 IEEE International
> >>>>>             Parallel & Distributed Processing Symposium,
> >>>>>             DOI 10.1109/IPDPS.2011.27, May 2011,
> >>>>>             <https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/6012836>.
> >>>>> weiyh>>>no objections.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> d) Please review. We found the following URL for this reference:
> >>>>> https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/6312192
> . We have added this URL to this
> >>>>> reference. Please let us know if you have any objections
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Original:
> >>>>>  [FATTREE]  Leiserson, C. E., "Fat-Trees: Universal Networks for
> >>>>>             Hardware-Efficient Supercomputing", 1985.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Current:
> >>>>>  [FATTREE]  Leiserson, C. E., "Fat-Trees: Universal Networks for
> >>>>>             Hardware-Efficient Supercomputing", IEEE Transactions on
> >>>>>             Computers, vol. C-34, no. 10, pp. 892-901,
> >>>>>             DOI 10.1109/TC.1985.6312192, October 1985,
> >>>>>             <https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/6312192>.
> >>>>> weiyh>>>no objections.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> e) Please review. We found the following URL for this reference:
> >>>>> https://www.broadband-forum.org/download/af-pnni-0055.001.pdf
> . We have added
>
> >>>>> this URL to this reference. Additionally, please note that the original 
> >>>>> date
> >>>>> for this reference was 2003. We were unable to find a version of this
>
> >>>>> reference with that date. The version we found at the URL has a date of 
> >>>>> April
>
> >>>>> 2002 and updated the reference as follows for consistency. Please let 
> >>>>> us know
> >>>>> if you have any objections.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Original:
> >>>>>  [PNNI]     ATM Forum Technical Committee, "Private Network-Network
> >>>>>             Interface Specification, Version 1.1 (PNNI 1.1), af-pnni-
> >>>>>             0055.002", 2003.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Current:
> >>>>>  [PNNI]     The ATM Forum Technical Committee, "Private Network-
> >>>>>             Network Interface - Specification Version 1.1 - (PNNI
> >>>>>             1.1)", af-pnni-0055.001, April 2002,
> >>>>>             <https://www.broadband-forum.org/download/af-pnni-
> >>>>>             0055.001.pdf>.
> >>>>> -->
> >>>>> weiyh>>>no objections.
> >>>>>
>
> >>>>> 21) <!-- [rfced] The following terminology appears to be used 
> >>>>> inconsistently.
> >>>>> Please let us know how we should update for consistency.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> North Prefix TIE vs. Prefix North TIE
> >>>>> South Prefix TIE vs. South North TIE -->
> >>>>> Prefix South TIE
> >>>>> weiyh>>> replace “South Prefix TIE”with "Prefix South TIE" ,and replace 
> >>>>> “North Prefix TIE”with "Prefix North TIE"
>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 22) <!-- [rfced] Please review the "Inclusive Language" portion of the 
> >>>>> online
>
> >>>>> Style Guide <
> https://www.rfc-editor.org/styleguide/part2/#inclusive_language>
>
> >>>>> and let us know if any changes are needed.  Updates of this nature 
> >>>>> typically
> >>>>> result in more precise language, which is helpful for readers.
> >>>>>
>
> >>>>> For example, please consider whether the terms "black" and "natively".
> >>>>>
>
> >>>>> In addition, please consider whether "traditional" should be updated 
> >>>>> for clarity.
> >>>>> While the NIST website
> >>>>> <
> https://www.nist.gov/nist-research-library/nist-technical-series-publications-author-instructions#table1>
>
> >>>>> indicates that this term is potentially biased, it is also ambiguous.
> >>>>> "Tradition" is a subjective term, as it is not the same for everyone. 
> >>>>> -->
>
> >>>>> weiyh>>>I'd prefer to keep "black" and "natively", and prefer to 
> >>>>> replace "traditional" with "classical"
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>>> 23) <!-- [rfced] FYI - We have added expansions for the following 
> >>>>> abbreviations
> >>>>> per Section 3.6 of RFC 7322 ("RFC Style Guide"). Please review each
> >>>>> expansion in the document carefully to ensure correctness.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Bidirectional Forwarding Detection (BFD)
> >>>>> Key Management Protocol (KMP)
> >>>>> Mobile Ad Hoc Network (MANET)
> >>>>> Optimized Link State Routing (OLSR)
> >>>>> Private Network-Network Interface (PNNI)
> >>>>> Routing Protocol for Low-Power and Lossy Networks (RPL)
> >>>>> -->
> >>>>> weiyh>>>no objections.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thank you.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> RFC Editor/mc/ap
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Dec 11, 2024, at 4:19 PM, rfc-edi...@rfc-editor.org wrote:
> >>>>>
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> >>>>> --------------------------------------
> >>>>> RFC9696 (draft-ietf-rift-applicability-17)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Title            : RIFT Applicability and Operational Considerations
>
> >>>>> Author(s)        : Y. Wei, Z. Zhang, D. Afanasiev, P. Thubert, T. 
> >>>>> Przygienda
> >>>>> WG Chair(s)      : Zhaohui (Jeffrey) Zhang, Jeff Tantsura
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