Hi Gábor and Keiichi,

We have now received all necessary approvals and consider AUTH48 complete:
https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9693

Thank you for your attention and guidance during the AUTH48 process.
We will move this document forward in the publication process at this time.

RFC Editor/ap

> On Jan 7, 2025, at 2:26 AM, 島 慶一(先端技術研究所)- Shima Keiichi - 
> <keiichi.sh...@g.softbank.co.jp> wrote:
> 
> Dear Alanna and all,
> 
> As a co-author, I am also OK with the latest version and approve for 
> publication.
> 
> Thank you.
> 
> ---
> Keiichi Shima / 島慶一 <keiichi.sh...@g.softbank.co.jp>
> Research Institute of Advanced Technology
> SoftBank Corp.
> 
> 
> 2025年1月7日(火) 17:28 Dr. Lencse Gábor <len...@sze.hu>:
> Dear Alanna,
> 
> Thank you very much for your quick reply and for the update of our I-D 
> according to my requests. I have checked the latest changes at 
> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9693-lastdiff.html and I do not 
> have any further request.
> 
> Hereby I approve the document for publication.
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Gábor
> 
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> 06/01/2025 21:52 keltezéssel, Alanna Paloma írta:
> > Hi Gábor and Keiichi,
> >
> > Thank you for your replies and for handling the email issues. As all our 
> > outstanding questions have been addressed, we will await any further 
> > changes you may have and approval from each author prior to moving this 
> > document forward in the publication process.
> >
> > The files have been posted here (please refresh):
> >   https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9693.xml
> >   https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9693.txt
> >   https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9693.html
> >   https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9693.pdf
> >
> > The relevant diff files have been posted here:
> >   https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9693-diff.html (comprehensive diff)
> >   https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9693-auth48diff.html (AUTH48 
> > changes)
> >   https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9693-lastdiff.html (htmlwdiff diff 
> > between last version and this)
> >   https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9693-lastrfcdiff.html (rfcdiff 
> > between last version and this)
> >
> > For the AUTH48 status of this document, please see:
> >   https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9693
> >
> > Thank you,
> > RFC Editor/ap
> >
> >> On Jan 6, 2025, at 10:53 AM, Dr. Lencse Gábor <len...@sze.hu> wrote:
> >>
> >> Dear Alanna Paloma,
> >>
> >> Now I reply to your e-mail on "Mon, 09 December 2024 20:05 UTC". I copy 
> >> here the text from auth48archive and put my answers into "<GL> </GL>" tags.
> >>
> >> ---- Copied text starts here ----
> >>
> >> Hi Gábor and Warren (AD)*,
> >>
> >> *Warren - As the AD, please review and approve of the updated key word in 
> >> Section 4.4:
> >>
> >> Original:
> >> [RFC4814] REQUIRES pseudorandom port numbers, which the authors
> >> believe is a good approximation of the distribution of the source
> >> port numbers a NATxy gateway on the Internet may face with.
> >>
> >> Current:
> >> As described in [RFC4814], pseudorandom port numbers are REQUIRED,
> >> which the authors believe is a good approximation of the distribution
> >> of the source port numbers a NATxy gateway on the Internet may be
> >> faced with.
> >>
> >> See this diff file:
> >> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9693-auth48diff.html
> >>
> >>
> >> Gábor - Thank you for your replies. We have updated as requested.
> >>
> >> <GL> Thank you very much for that! </GL>
> >>
> >>
> >> Please note that we have some follow-up queries.
> >>
> >>> But both of them are rather lengthy. Thus, the best title could be simply:
> >>> "Benchmarking Methodology for Stateful NATxy Gateways"
> >>> Rationale: This RFC will be the first one talking about benchmarking of 
> >>> stateleful NAT boxes. The proposed title expresses the topic clearly and 
> >>> it is concise (it does not contain anything unnecessary). It should be 
> >>> noted that the current version is partial: it mentions pseudorandom port 
> >>> numbers but it does not mention pseudorandom IP addresses. This is not 
> >>> logical.
> >>> I discussed it with my co-author, Keiichi Shima and he agrees with the 
> >>> proposed title.
> >>> Is it possible the change the title to this version?
> >> <GL> Thank you for updating the title! </GL>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ) As “NATxy” has not appeared in previous RFCs and is defined in the 
> >> Abstract, may we further update the title?
> >>
> >> Current:
> >> Benchmarking Methodology for Stateful NATxy Gateways
> >>
> >> Perhaps:
> >> Benchmarking Methodology for Stateful NAT Gateways
> >>
> >> <GL>
> >>
> >> Please rather keep "Stateful NATxy" in the title because changing it to 
> >> "Stateful NAT" would loose the important information that there can be IP 
> >> version translation. (IMHO, people would simply think of stateful NAT44 
> >> and not of stateful NAT64.)
> >>
> >> </GL>
> >>
> >>
> >>>> 8) <!-- [rfced] For clarity, how may we rephrase "it may be computing 
> >>>> efficiently
> >>>> generated by preparing" in the text below?
> >>>>
> >>>> Original:
> >>>>
> >>>> It may be computing efficiently generated by preparing a
> >>>> random permutation of the previously enumerated all possible four
> >>>> tuples using Durstenfeld's random shuffle algorithm [DUST1964].
> >>>>
> >>>> Perhaps:
> >>>>
> >>>> Efficient computing may be generated by preparing a
> >>>> random permutation of the previously enumerated all possible four
> >>>> tuples using Durstenfeld's random shuffle algorithm [DUST1964].
> >>>>
> >>>> -->
> >>>>
> >>> I am sorry, I do not understand your version. I think that the ambiguity 
> >>> was caused in the original text by the first word of the sentence: "It". 
> >>> To that end I would clarify the sentence as follows:
> >>> New:
> >>> Pseudorandom enumeration of all possible four tuples may be computing 
> >>> efficiently generated by preparing a
> >>> random permutation of the previously enumerated all possible four
> >>> tuples using Durstenfeld's random shuffle algorithm [DUST1964].
> >> ) We have updated the text per your suggestion; however, “may be computing 
> >> efficiently generated by…” still reads awkwardly. May we further clarify 
> >> the text as follows?
> >>
> >> Perhaps:
> >> Pseudorandom enumeration of all possible four tuples may compute 
> >> efficiently
> >> by using Durstenfeld’s random shuffle algorithm [DUST1964] to prepare a
> >> random permutation of the previously enumerated all possible four tuples.
> >>
> >> <GL>
> >>
> >> I do not understand the recommended text. The problematic part is "four 
> >> tuples may compute efficiently".
> >>
> >> We want to generate a pseudorandom enumeration of something. And we want 
> >> to do it in an efficient way that we do not use too much computing power.
> >>
> >> Therefore, I would rewrite your latest recommendation as follows:
> >>
> >> Pseudorandom enumeration of all possible four tuples may be generated in a 
> >> computationally efficient way
> >>    by using Durstenfeld’s random shuffle algorithm [DUST1964] to prepare a
> >>    random permutation of the previously enumerated all possible four 
> >> tuples.
> >>
> >> Does it work for you?
> >>
> >> (Or "computing efficiently" may be used instead of "in a computationally 
> >> efficient way", it that sounds better for a native speaker.)
> >>
> >>
> >> </GL>
> >>
> >>> In Section 6.
> >>>
> >>> ORIGINAL: The table MUST be complemented with reporting the relevant 
> >>> parameters of the DUT. If the DUT is a general-purpose computer and some 
> >>> software NATxy gateway implementation is tested, then the hardware 
> >>> description SHOULD include: computer type, CPU type, and number of active 
> >>> CPU cores, memory type, size and speed, network interface card type 
> >>> (reflecting also the speed), the fact that direct cable connections were 
> >>> used or the type of the switch used for interconnecting the Tester and 
> >>> the DUT.
> >>>
> >>> EDITED: The table MUST be complemented with reporting the relevant 
> >>> parameters of the DUT. If the DUT is a general-purpose computer and some 
> >>> software NATxy gateway implementation is tested, then the hardware 
> >>> description SHOULD include: the computer type, CPU type and number of 
> >>> active CPU cores, memory type, size and speed, network interface card 
> >>> type (also reflecting the speed), the fact that direct cable connections 
> >>> were used, and the type of the switch used for interconnecting the Tester 
> >>> and the DUT.
> >>>
> >>> Here the problem is, that the Tester and the DUT are connected either by 
> >>> direct cables or through a switch. The original text had an "or" but the 
> >>> edited text has an "and" between the two. I understand that the original 
> >>> text did not sound well. Could you please rephrase it so that its 
> >>> original meaning should remain?
> >>>
> >>> Moreover, I found a mistake that is NOT a results of the editing, but it 
> >>> was present in the original text, and thus it was definitely my fault. 
> >>> Could you please correct it?
> >>
> >> ) We have updated the text and reformatted it to a bulleted list to 
> >> improve readability. Please let us know if further updates are needed.
> >>
> >> Current:
> >> The table MUST be complemented with reporting the relevant parameters
> >> of the DUT. If the DUT is a general-purpose computer and some
> >> software NATxy gateway implementation is tested, then the hardware
> >> description SHOULD include the following:
> >>
> >> * computer type
> >>
> >> * CPU type
> >>
> >> * number of active CPU cores
> >>
> >> * memory type
> >>
> >> * size and speed
> >>
> >> * network interface card type (also reflecting the speed)
> >>
> >> * direct cable connections or the type of switch used for
> >> interconnecting the Tester and the DUT
> >>
> >> <GL>
> >>
> >> I agree that the bulleted list is easier to parse. Moreover, the bulleted 
> >> rewriting uncovered (the elimination of) some implied relations of the 
> >> parameters in the original text.
> >> (E.g., in the original text, "size and speed" referred to the memory; also 
> >> direct cable connections are not really clear to me in the new text.)
> >>
> >> Therefore, I recommend the following new text:
> >>
> >> The table MUST be complemented with reporting the relevant parameters
> >> of the DUT. If the DUT is a general-purpose computer and some
> >> software NATxy gateway implementation is tested, then the hardware
> >> description SHOULD include the following:
> >>
> >> * computer type
> >>
> >> * CPU type
> >>
> >> * number of active CPU cores
> >>
> >> * memory type, size, and speed
> >>
> >> * network interface card type (also reflecting the speed)
> >>
> >> * the fact that direct cable connections were used or the type of switch 
> >> used for
> >> interconnecting the Tester and the DUT
> >>
> >> </GL>
> >>
> >> ...
> >> The files have been posted here (please refresh):
> >> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9693.xml
> >> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9693.txt
> >> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9693.html
> >> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9693.pdf
> >>
> >> The relevant diff files have been posted here:
> >> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9693-diff.html (comprehensive diff)
> >> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9693-auth48diff.html (AUTH48 changes)
> >>
> >> <GL>
> >>
> >> The "AUTH48 changes" URL was very much helpful, thank you very much for 
> >> including it!
> >>
> >> </GL>
> >>
> >> Please review the document carefully and contact us with any further 
> >> updates you may have. Note that we do not make changes once a document is 
> >> published as an RFC.
> >>
> >> We will await approvals from each party listed on the AUTH48 status page 
> >> below prior to moving this document forward in the publication process.
> >>
> >> For the AUTH48 status of this document, please see:
> >> https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9693
> >>
> >> Thank you,
> >> RFC Editor/ap
> >>
> >> ---- Copied text ends here ----
> >>
> >> I have checked the further e-mails including the approval of Warren Kumari 
> >> (Thank you Warren!) and your reply for it, my e-mail on December 17 and 
> >> your reply for it, your reminder e-mail on January 2, and finally, the 
> >> e-mail of Keiichi Shima about my e-mail issue, and I did not find anything 
> >> else that needed an answer.
> >>
> >> So I think I could process all my backlog by this single e-mail.
> >>
> >> Thank you very much for your careful work and special thanks for your 
> >> endurance in trying to reach me!
> >>
> >> Best regards,
> >>
> >> Gábor
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> 

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