Dear RFC Editors,
We will respond to the questions and review the document in the next couple
of weeks.
Best regards,
Renan

On Thu, Dec 19, 2024 at 10:58 PM Rebecca VanRheenen <rvanrhee...@amsl.com>
wrote:

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> > On Dec 10, 2024, at 12:01 AM, rfc-edi...@rfc-editor.org wrote:
> >
> > Authors,
> >
> > While reviewing this document during AUTH48, please resolve (as
> necessary) the following questions, which are also in the XML file.
> >
> >
> > 1) <!-- [rfced] How may we update the abbreviated title to better align
> with the
> > document title? The acronym MOPS does not appear elsewhere in the
> > document, and the document title uses "Extended Reality" rather than
> "AR".
> >
> > Note: The abbreviated title only appears in the pdf output (in the
> running
> > header at the top of each page).
> >
> > Original:
> >  MOPS AR Use Case
> >
> > Perhaps:
> >  XR Use Case
> > -->
> >
> >
> > 2) <!-- [rfced] The document title uses "a Use Case" and "Extended
> Reality
> > Application" (singular), while the abstract uses "use cases" and
> > "Extended Reality (XR) applications" (plural). Please review and let us
> > know if any updates are needed.
> >
> > Document title:
> >  Media Operations Use Case for an Extended Reality Application on Edge
> >  Computing Infrastructure
> >
> > Abstract:
> >   This document explores the issues involved in the use of Edge
> >   Computing resources to operationalize media use cases that involve
> >   Extended Reality (XR) applications.
> >   ...
> >   In particular, this document
> >   discusses those applications that run on devices ...
> > -->
> >
> >
> > 3) <!-- [rfced] Please review the placement of this sentence in the
> > abstract. Would it be helpful to move this sentence to be the last
> > sentence in the abstract? Or do you prefer the current location?
> >
> > Original:
> >   The intended audience for this document are network operators who are
> >   interested in providing edge computing resources to operationalize
> >   the requirements of such applications.
> > -->
> >
> >
> > 4) <!-- [rfced] Please insert any keywords (beyond those that appear in
> > the title) for use on https://www.rfc-editor.org/search. -->
> >
> >
> > 5) <!-- [rfced] Section 1: Will readers understand what "This" refers to
> in the
> > second sentence below? The first sentence is included for context.
> >
> > Original:
> >   Some XR applications
> >   such as AR require a real-time processing of video streams to
> >   recognize specific objects.  This is then used to overlay information
> >   on the video being displayed to the user.
> >
> > Perhaps:
> >   Some XR applications
> >   such as AR require a real-time processing of video streams to
> >   recognize specific objects.  This processing is then used to overlay
> information
> >   on the video being displayed to the user.
> >
> > Or:
> >   Some XR applications
> >   such as AR require a real-time processing of video streams to
> >   recognize specific objects.  The objects are then used to overlay
> information
> >   on the video being displayed to the user.
> > -->
> >
> >
> > 6) <!-- [rfced] Section 1: May we update "XR applications such as AR"
> and "XR
> > applications such as AR and VR" as follows for clarity?
> >
> > Original:
> >   Some XR applications
> >   such as AR require a real-time processing of video streams to
> >   recognize specific objects.
> >   ...
> >   In addition, XR
> >   applications such as AR and VR will also require generation of new
> >   video frames to be played to the user.
> >
> > Perhaps:
> >   Some XR applications
> >   (such as AR applications) require  real-time processing of video
> streams to
> >   recognize specific objects.
> >   ...
> >   In addition, other XR
> >   applications (such as AR and VR applications) will also require
> generation
> >   of new video frames to be played to the user.
> >
> > Or:
> >   Some XR applications
> >   (specifically, AR applications) require  real-time processing of video
> streams to
> >   recognize specific objects.
> >   ...
> >   In addition, other XR
> >   applications (specifically, AR and VR applications) will also require
> generation
> >   of new video frames to be played to the user.
> > -->
> >
> >
> > 7) <!-- [rfced] Section 1: May we combine these sentences as follows to
> improve
> > readability?
> >
> > Original:
> >   Examples of form factors include Head Mounted Displays
> >   (HMD) such as Optical-see through HMDs and video-see-through HMDs and
> >   Hand-held displays.  Smart phones with video cameras and location
> >   sensing capabilities using systems such as a global navigation
> >   satellite system (GNSS) are another example of such devices.
> >
> > Perhaps:
> >   Examples of form factors include the following: 1) head-mounted
> displays
> >   (HMDs), such as optical see-through HMDs and video see-through HMDs, 2)
> >   hand-held displays, and 3) smartphones with video cameras and location-
> >   sensing capabilities using systems such as a global navigation
> >   satellite system (GNSS).
> > -->
> >
> >
> > 8) <!-- [rfced] Section 1: Is "motivates" the correct word choice here?
> Would
> > "addresses", "examines", or something similar be better?
> >
> > Original:
> >   This document motivates these issues
> >   with a use-case that is presented in the following sections.
> > -->
> >
> >
> > 9) <!-- [rfced] Section 2: We updated "application with XR systems'
> > characteristics" as "application with characteristics of an XR
> > system". Would it be helpful to further update in one of the ways shown
> > below?
> >
> > Original:
> >   A use case is now described that involves an application with XR
> >   systems' characteristics.
> >
> > Current:
> >   This use case involves an application with characteristics of an
> >   XR system.
> >
> > Perhaps:
> >   This use case involves an XR application.
> >
> > Or:
> >   This use case involves an XR application running on a mobile device.
> > -->
> >
> >
> > 10) <!-- [rfced] Section 2.2: Will readers know what "the previous step"
> is?
> >
> > Original:
> >   The XR application must generate a high-quality video that has the
> >   properties described in the previous step and overlay the video on
> >   the XR device's display
> >
> > Perhaps:
> >   The XR application must generate a high-quality video that has the
> >   properties described in the previous section and overlay the video on
> >   the XR device's display
> >
> > Or:
> >   The XR application must generate a high-quality video that has the
> >   properties described above and overlay the video on
> >   the XR device's display
> > -->
> >
> >
> > 11) <!-- [rfced] Section 3: Should this sentence mention solutions in
> addition to
> > challenges? We note the title of the section is "Technical Challenges and
> > Solutions".
> >
> > Original:
> >   This section will
> >   discuss the challenges such applications can face as a consequence.
> >
> > Perhaps:
> >   This section
> >   discusses the challenges such applications can face as a consequence
> and
> >   offers some solutions.
> > -->
> >
> >
> > 12) <!-- [rfced] Section 3: Is "indicates" the best word choice here?
> Would
> > "recommends", "suggests", or something similar be better?
> >
> > Original:
> >   Towards this end, a 3GPP study indicates an Ultra
> >   Reliable Low Latency of 0.1ms to 1ms for communication between an
> >   Edge server and User Equipment (UE) [URLLC].
> > -->
> >
> >
> > 13) <!-- [rfced] Section 3: Please review the placement of the sentence
> starting
> > with "Such operational parameters" in the last paragraph of this
> > section. Would it be helpful to incorporate this sentence into the first
> > sentence of the paragraph?
> >
> > Original:
> >   However, heavy-tailed nature of several operational parameters makes
> >   prediction-based adaptation by ABR algorithms sub-optimal [ABR_2].
> >   ...
> >   Such operational parameters include but are not limited
> >   to buffer occupancy, throughput, client-server latency, and variable
> >   transmission times.
> >
> > Perhaps:
> >   However, the heavy-tailed nature of several operational parameters
> >   (e.g., buffer occupancy, throughput, client-server latency, and
> variable
> >   transmission times) makes prediction-based adaptation by ABR
> algorithms sub-optimal
> >   [ABR_2].
> > -->
> >
> >
> > 14) <!-- [rfced] Section 3: Will readers understand what "This" refers
> to in the
> > second sentence below? The first sentence is included for context.
> >
> > Original:
> >   Other subtle issues with these distributions include
> >   the "expectation paradox" [HEAVY_TAIL_1] where the longer the wait
> >   for an event, the longer a further need to wait and the issue of
> >   mismatch between the size and count of events [HEAVY_TAIL_1].  This
> >   makes designing an algorithm for adaptation error-prone and
> >   challenging.
> >
> > Perhaps:
> >   Other subtle issues with these
> >   distributions include the "expectation paradox" [HEAVY_TAIL_1] (the
> >   longer the wait for an event, the longer a further need to wait) and
> >   the mismatch between the size and count of events [HEAVY_TAIL_1].
> >   These issues make designing an algorithm for adaptation error-prone and
> >   challenging.
> > -->
> >
> >
> > 15) <!-- [rfced] Section 4.1: Would it be helpful to point readers to a
> specific
> > section here?
> >
> > Original:
> >   As discussed earlier, the parameters that capture the characteristics
> >   of XR application behavior are heavy-tailed.
> >
> > Perhaps:
> >   As discussed in Section 1, the parameters that capture the
> characteristics
> >   of XR application behavior are heavy-tailed.
> > -->
> >
> >
> > 16) <!-- [rfced] Section 4.1: We are having trouble understanding
> "distribution of
> > arrival times between XR application invocation". Perhaps "invocation"
> > should be "invocations" (plural), or perhaps a word missing ("between XR
> > application invocation and X")? Please review.
> >
> > Original:
> >   Examples of such
> >   parameters include the distribution of arrival times between XR
> >   application invocation, the amount of data transferred, and the
> >   inter-arrival times of packets within a session.
> >
> > Perhaps:
> >   Examples of such
> >   parameters include the distribution of arrival times between XR
> >   application invocations, the amount of data transferred, and the
> >   inter-arrival times of packets within a session.
> > -->
> >
> >
> > 17) <!-- [rfced] Section 4.1: Please note that RFC 9450 is not a DETNET
> WG
> > document; it is a RAW WG document (see
> > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/rfc9450/). In addition, [RFC8939],
> > [RFC9023], and [RFC9450] have been published, so they are no longer
> > "being developed". How may we updated this sentence?
> >
> > Original:
> >   Providing Edge server support for the techniques being developed at
> >   the DETNET Working Group at the IETF [RFC8939], [RFC9023], [RFC9450]
> >   could guarantee performance of XR applications.
> >
> > Perhaps:
> >   Providing support for Edge servers in techniques
> >   such as those described in [RFC8939], [RFC9023], and [RFC9450]
> >   could guarantee performance of XR applications.
> > -->
> >
> >
> > 18) <!-- [rfced] Section 4.1: Is [RFC2210] is the correct citation here,
> or should
> > it be [RFC2112]?  We ask because we see only one instance of "quality of
> > service" in the text of RFC 2210, and the title of RFC 2112 is
> > "Specification of Guaranteed Quality of Service".
> >
> > Original:
> >  Another option for the network operators could be to deploy equipment
> that
> >  supports differentiated services [RFC2475] or per-connection quality-
> >  of-service guarantees [RFC2210].
> > -->
> >
> >
> > 19) <!-- [rfced] Section 4.1: May we move the following sentence to
> appear
> > before Table 1 rather than after it?
> >
> > Original:
> >   Thus, the provisioning of edge servers in terms of the number of
> >   servers, the topology, where to place them, the assignment of link
> >   capacity, CPUs and GPUs should keep the above factors in mind.
> > -->
> >
> >
> > 20) <!-- [rfced] Section 4.2: What is the relationship between Table 2
> and
> > [METRICS_6]? We do not see the table in [METRIC_6].
> >
> > Original:
> >   The following Table 2 [METRICS_6] shows a taxonomy of applications
> >   with their associated required response times and bandwidths.
> > -->
> >
> >
> > 21) <!-- [rfced] Section 4.2: FYI - We updated "section 5.1" to "Section
> 4.1"
> > here. Also, because Table 1 appears in Section 4.1, we updated to only
> > mention Section 4.1.
> >
> > Original:
> >   Additionally, the required bandwidth for our use case as
> >   discussed in section 5.1, Table 1, is 200Mbps-1000Mbps.
> >
> > Current:
> >   Additionally, the required bandwidth for our use case
> >   is 200 to 1000 Mbps (see Section 4.1).
> > -->
> >
> >
> > 22) <!-- [rfced] Section 7: We do not see explicit mention of "streaming
> > applications" in [DIST], [NIST1], [CWE], and [NIST2]. Please confirm that
> > these citations and the phrasing of the text are correct.
> >
> > Original:
> >   The security issues for the presented use case are similar to other
> >   streaming applications [DIST], [NIST1], [CWE], [NIST2].
> >
> > Perhaps:
> >   The security issues for the presented use case are similar to those
> >   described in [DIST], [NIST1], [CWE], and [NIST2].
> >
> > Or:
> >   The security issues for the presented use case are similar to those
> for other
> >   streaming applications. See [DIST], [NIST1], [CWE], and [NIST2].
> > -->
> >
> >
> > 23) <!-- [rfced] Section 8 (Informative References)
> >
> > a) We added DOIs and URLs to some reference entries. Please review for
> > correctness.
> >
> >
> > b) FYI - We updated the title of this reference entry as follows. Let us
> know
> > any concerns.
> >
> > Original:
> >   [AUGMENTED]
> >              Schmalstieg, D. S. and T.H. Hollerer, "Augmented
> >              Reality",  Addison Wesley, 2016.
> >
> > Updated:
> >   [AUGMENTED]
> >              Schmalstieg, D. and T. Höllerer, "Augmented Reality:
> >              Principles and Practice", Addison-Wesley Professional,
> >              2016, <https://www.oreilly.com/library/view/augmented-
> >              reality-principles/9780133153217/>.
> >
> >
> > c) FYI - We updated the date in this reference entry from 2020 to 2022
> per
> > https://arxiv.org/pdf/2001.10488. Let us know any concerns.
> >
> > Original:
> >   [HEAVY_TAIL_2]
> >              Taleb, N., "The Statistical Consequences of Fat Tails",
> >              STEM Academic Press, 2020.
> >
> > Updated:
> >   [HEAVY_TAIL_2]
> >              Taleb, N., "Statistical Consequences of Fat Tails: Real
> >              World Preasymptotics, Epistemology, and Applications",
> >              Revised Edition, STEM Academic Press, 2022,
> >              <https://arxiv.org/pdf/2001.10488>.
> >
> >
> > d) FYI - We updated the date from 1982 to 2007 in this reference entry to
> > match the most current version of the book. Let us know any concerns.
> >
> > See:
> https://www.wiley.com/en-us/A+Primer+in+Data+Reduction%3A+An+Introductory+Statistics+Textbook-p-9780471101352
> >
> > Original:
> >   [HEAVY_TAIL_3]
> >              Ehrenberg, A., "A Primer in Data Reduction.", John Wiley,
> >              London, 1982.
> >
> > Updated:
> >   [HEAVY_TAIL_3]
> >              Ehrenberg, A., "A Primer in Data Reduction: An
> >              Introductory Statistics Textbook", John Wiley and Sons,
> >              2007, <https://www.wiley.com/en-us/A+Primer+in+Data+Reduct
> >              ion%3A+An+Introductory+Statistics+Textbook-
> >              p-9780471101352>.
> >
> >
> > e) FYI - We updated the title of this reference entry as follows (i.e.,
> added
> > "gDLS:"). Let us know any concerns.
> >
> > Original:
> >   [SLAM_2]   Sweeny, C., Fragoso, V., Hollerer, T., and M. Turk, "A
> >              scalable solution to the generalized pose and scale
> >              problem", In European Conference on Computer Vision, pp.
> >              16-31, 2014.
> >
> > Perhaps:
> >   [SLAM_2]   Sweeny, C., Fragoso, V., Höllerer, T., and M. Turk, "gDLS:
> >              A Scalable Solution to the Generalized Pose and Scale
> >              Problem", Computer Vision - ECCV 2014, pp. 16-31,
> >              DOI 10.1007/978-3-319-10593-2_2, 2014,
> >              <https://link.springer.com/
> >              chapter/10.1007/978-3-319-10593-2_2>.
> > -->
> >
> >
> > 24) <!-- [rfced] We note inconsistencies in the terms listed below. If no
> > objections, we will update to the form on the right (i.e., the lowercase
> > form). We see a mix of uppercase and lowercase use, but lowercase seems
> > more common. In addition, the lowercase form aligns with usage in several
> > other RFCs (e.g., RFC 9556).
> >
> > Edge Computing vs. Edge computing vs. edge computing
> >
> > Edge device vs. Edge Device vs. edge device
> >
> > Edge server vs. edge server
> >
> > Edge vs. edge
> > -->
> >
> >
> > 25) <!-- [rfced] FYI - We added expansions for the following
> abbreviations
> > per Section 3.6 of RFC 7322 ("RFC Style Guide"). Please review each
> > expansion in the document carefully to ensure correctness.
> >
> > Software-Defined Networking (SDN)
> > Graphics Processing Units (GPUs)
> > -->
> >
> >
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> > and let us know if any changes are needed.  Updates of this nature
> typically
> > result in more precise language, which is helpful for readers.
> >
> > Note that our script did not flag any words in particular, but this
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> >
> > In addition, please consider whether "tradition" should be updated for
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> > While the NIST website
> > <
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>
> > indicates that this term is potentially biased, it is also ambiguous.
> > "Tradition" is a subjective term, as it is not the same for everyone.
> > -->
> >
> >
> > Thank you.
> >
> > RFC Editor/rv
> >
> >
> >
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> > RFC9699 (draft-ietf-mops-ar-use-case-18)
> >
> > Title            : Media Operations Use Case for an Extended Reality
> Application on Edge Computing Infrastructure
> > Author(s)        : R. Krishna, A. Rahman
> > WG Chair(s)      : Leslie Daigle, Kyle Rose
> >
> > Area Director(s) : Warren Kumari, Mahesh Jethanandani
> >
>
>
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